[jo kus]

My grammar teacher always taught me that you start a paragraph off with a leading sentence.

All paragraphs have a "leading sentence". What's your point? It would be no paragraph without sentences...

Augustine states clearly the Pelagius error is all this nonsense of God looking down the "corridors of time" to see who would choose Him.

I don't see anything about "looking down a corridor of time" in St. Augustine's statement. He clearly disagrees with the idea that man does not need God to do good. I am at a loss to identify what you disagree with here...You didn't finish the part that I highlighted and bolded for you to see the crux of the matter that St. Augustine disagrees with Pelagius. And again, the Church did not make any sort of statement regarding what you claim St. Augustine taught regarding "looking down the corridor of time".

St. Augustine is NOT the entire Tradition and only teacher of the Catholic Church's received doctrine. One is free to hold his view, or the view that God DOES consider one's merits when predestining someone. Why can't God do just that? If God sees time as one now (rather than a "corridor", a poor analogy), then God MUST see our merits in light of His graces.

Didn't you tell me somewhere about 200 posts or so that the Catholic Church DOES have a policy on predestination? Is their policy that they have no policy?

Yes, we believe in predestination of the elect. Perhaps you should read my posts. I never said the Church has identified EVERYTHING POSSIBLE on the theology of predestination. One who makes that claim is clearly speculating. Who can fully know the mind of God?

Now Augustine becomes ONE voice within Tradition. Well that ONE voice is telling you what precisely is the Pelagius error; something that the Church now believe and you espouse on this board.

You are having a problem reading St. Augustine and where I point out to you that Pelagius problem, according to the Saint, is that man doesn't need God to enter the Kingdom. Man comes to God alone. That is Pelagianism. Why is this so difficult a concept for you? Where does the Church teach that man does not need God to come to Him?

Regards

[HarleyD]

You are having a problem reading St. Augustine and where I point out to you that Pelagius problem, according to the Saint, is that man doesn't need God to enter the Kingdom. Man comes to God alone. That is Pelagianism.

I make a living at reading. There is no problem.

"Therefore," says the Pelagian, "He foreknew who would be holy and immaculate by the choice of free will, and on that account elected them before the foundation of the world in that same foreknowledge of His in which He foreknew that they would be such. (Augustine)

His foreknowledge is our predestination; He is not forcing you to make decisions; the decisions you make will determine your fate, but that is not known to you; only to God. (Jokus post #3128)

I'm not the one you need to convince.