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To: jo kus; HarleyD; Kolokotronis
The "revealed" belief of the Eucharist and Mary didn't happened for about six hundred years later (HD)

I can quite easily post St. Ignatius of Antioch on the Eucharist - about 107 AD, or St. Justin the Martyr (150 AD), St. Irenaesu (180 AD) and St. Tertullian (200 AD) on BOTH the real presence of the Eucharist, and Mary's special role as the New Eve, complimentary to the New Adam already found in the Scriptures for Christ (jo kus)

HD, jo is right on the button with this one. And Ignatius was a disicple of Apostle Peter, and was ordained bishop by the him. I am sure what he wrote was not something the Church did not already teach. You assertion about centures later is simply not true.

The Church never disagreed with either of the Fathers mentioned by jo kus. It merely asserted that she was Theotokos, the Birth-giver of God.

3,241 posted on 03/05/2006 4:12:41 PM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: HarleyD; jo kus
apologies for spelling/omiossions...

"by the him" = "by him" obviously, "You teaching" = "Your teaching" of course...

"The Church never disagreed with either of the Fathers mentioned by jo kus" -- what I mneant to say, of course, is that Tertullian was denounced later, but his early writings and teachings were orthodox.

3,242 posted on 03/05/2006 4:15:57 PM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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