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To: kosta50; HarleyD
FK: "No, but a person does need to understand what is at the core of the Bible to know God well enough to accept Him."

So, now you are saying that man accepts God on his own accord? I wish you would make up your mind.

My mind is made up just fine, and man does not accept God on his own accord. :) Just as Harley is saying, once the elect are shown the light, we WILL accept God. Part of that light is knowing who Christ is and why we need Him. From our human POV we do experience a free choosing, even though God has already chosen and preordained the names of the elect.

I think it has been clearly stated here that once saved you cannot sin because you are on God's tractor beam, and He doesn't make mistakes. Your theological cousins on the predestination side of the divide say that Judas was simply doing God's will. Then so must satan! If God allows it, it is good.

God doesn't make mistakes, and if God allows it, then it is for God's greater good. As for the rest of it, the only person on this thread who has been arguing it has been you. You have only been reading your own "clear statements". :)

2,617 posted on 02/14/2006 1:31:08 AM PST by Forest Keeper
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To: Forest Keeper; kosta50; jo kus
One has to remember that all things come from God-even our repentance. Some would like us to believe that it is man who repents. But man cannot repent until God gives them the capability.

Even our repentence is a gift from God.
2,618 posted on 02/14/2006 2:19:51 AM PST by HarleyD ("Man's steps are ordained by the LORD, How then can man understand his way?" Prov 20:24)
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