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To: Forest Keeper; Kolokotronis
So, another way to ask my same question would be: "could Jesus have used His free will and sinned"?

The answer is "Yes." Jesus was tempted like any one of us, but He chose not to.

I would answer 'No', not because He doesn't have the power to do whatever He wants, but because it is not His nature to sin

Which one of His natures, FK? His divine or His human nature? You see, the moment you begin to separate His humanity from ours, you wonder into heresies that were long discarded -- namely that Christ only "appeared" as man. If He was subject to passions, and he was, then He was subject to sin. If he did not reject sin on His own free will, what accomplishment would His sinlessness be? What hope would we ever have of achieving theosis?

2,223 posted on 02/01/2006 7:37:25 PM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50; Kolokotronis
Me: So, another way to ask my same question would be: "could Jesus have used His free will and sinned"?

The answer is "Yes." Jesus was tempted like any one of us, but He chose not to.

Jesus could have sinned??? Jesus was tempted and could have fallen, but chose not to??? You just gave Christ the potential to author evil. From where did this potential come?

Me: "...but because it is not His nature to sin."

Which one of His natures, FK? His divine or His human nature?

I have always thought that Christ held both natures in full and simultaneously. Since we are told that Christ was without sin, I assume that as to this aspect of His being on earth, that the divine controlled. Along with His salvation work, Christ's incarnation also purposed a teaching aspect. The only way to teach with absolute authority would have been from a sinless state.

If He was subject to passions, and he was, then He was subject to sin.

WHY??? Jesus was passionate in the love He had for us and for the work tasked Him by His Father. There is no sin here. Jesus was not passionate for another man's wife, like David. Passion is a good thing when pointed at God. This is the only passion Jesus knew.

If he did not reject sin on His own free will, what accomplishment would His sinlessness be?

Jesus didn't reject sin, He didn't have it to commit. About Jesus, I really don't think this is a free will issue. Do you think of Jesus as "standing firm" against sin? Do you see Jesus ending His life without having sinned as a meritorious accomplishment? Thank you Jesus for holding on?

2,266 posted on 02/03/2006 10:29:13 AM PST by Forest Keeper
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