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To: Lee N. Field

I believe that Israel has its own destiny aside from that of Christians.


43 posted on 12/29/2005 5:14:35 PM PST by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: Sam Gamgee
I believe that Israel has its own destiny aside from that of Christians.

Would that be a destiny where they are saved apart from Christ?

If Israel is not saved, it's not a destiny worth having.

If Israel is saved in Christ, they are Christians.

If you hold that Israel is saved apart from Christ, what does that do for the doctrines of man's fallen state and Christ's atonement?

50 posted on 12/29/2005 7:32:26 PM PST by Lee N. Field
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To: Sam Gamgee; Lee N. Field
I believe that Israel has its own destiny aside from that of Christians.

Indeed. And it is unspeakable holocaust for the majority. According to the popular literalist theory making the rounds, God has a plan to move His "chosen people" into the land so that two-thirds of them, while still in their unbelief, can be killed off, thus prompting the remaining one-third to turn to Christ. This is part of "God's promise" to His "chosen people" according to one theorist. "The purpose will be to soften the hearts of a remnant so that they will accept Jesus as their Messiah."

Two-thirds will spend an eternity in hell so that one third will come to Christ. Not very good odds if you are a Jew.

75 posted on 01/03/2006 1:13:33 PM PST by topcat54
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