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To: sirchtruth
All the scripture you're pointing too has to do with the Apostles whom Jesus gave the "authority," not the power, to forgive sin.

Dear friend,

Because the Old and New Testament Scriptures are the divinely-revealed, written Word of God, Catholics venerate the Scriptures as they venerate the Lord’s body. But Catholics do not believe that God has given us His divine Revelation in Christ exclusively through Scripture. Catholics also believe that God’s Revelation comes to us through the Apostolic Tradition and teaching authority of the Church.

What Church? Scripture reveals this Church to be the one Jesus Christ built upon the rock of Saint Peter (Matt. 16:18). By giving Peter the keys of authority (Matt. 16:19), Jesus appointed Peter as the chief steward over His earthly kingdom (cf. Isaiah. 22:19-22). Jesus also charged Peter to be the source of strength for the rest of the apostles (Luke 22:32) and the earthly shepherd of Jesus' flock (John 21:15-17). Jesus further gave Peter, and the apostles and elders in union with him, the power to bind and loose in heaven what they bound and loosed on earth. (Matt. 16:19; 18:18). This teaching authority did not die with Peter and the apostles, but was transferred to future bishops through the laying on of hands (e.g., Acts 1:20; 6:6; 13:3; 8:18; 9:17; 1 Tim. 4:14; 5:22; 2 Tim. 1:6).

By virtue of this divinely-appointed authority, the Catholic Church determined the canon of Scripture (what books belong in the Bible) at the end of the fourth century. We therefore believe in the Scriptures by the authority of the Catholic Church. After all, nothing in Scripture tells us what Scriptures are inspired, what books belong in the Bible, or that Scripture is the final authority on questions concerning the Christian faith. Instead, the Bible says that the Church, not the Scriptures, is the pinnacle and foundation of the truth (1 Tim. 3:15) and the final arbiter on questions of the Christian faith (Matt. 18:17). It is through the teaching authority and Apostolic Tradition (2 Thess. 2:15; 3:6; 1 Cor. 11:2) of this Church, who is guided by the Holy Spirit (John 14:16,26; 16:13), that we know of the divine inspiration of the Scriptures, and the manifold wisdom of God. (cf. Ephesians 3:10).

All seven churches letters apply to All churches of Christ.

Jesus said his Church would be "the light of the world." He then noted that "a city set on a hill cannot be hid" (Matt. 5:14). This means his Church is a visible organization. It must have characteristics that clearly identify it and that distinguish it from other churches. Jesus promised, "I will build my Church and the gates of hell will not prevail against it" (Matt. 16:18). This means that his Church will never be destroyed and will never fall away from him. His Church will survive until his return.

Among the Christian churches, only the Catholic Church has existed since the time of Jesus. Every other Christian church is an offshoot of the Catholic Church. The Eastern Orthodox churches broke away from unity with the pope in 1054. The Protestant churches were established during the Reformation, which began in 1517. (Most of today’s Protestant churches are actually offshoots of the original Protestant offshoots.)

Only the Catholic Church existed in the tenth century, in the fifth century, and in the first century, faithfully teaching the doctrines given by Christ to the apostles, omitting nothing. The line of popes can be traced back, in unbroken succession, to Peter himself. This is unequaled by any institution in history.

If we wish to locate the Church founded by Jesus, we need to locate the one that has the four chief marks or qualities of his Church. The Church we seek must be one, holy, catholic, and apostolic.

Pillar of Fire, Pillar of Truth

God bless you on your journey.

105 posted on 12/27/2005 6:19:20 AM PST by NYer ("Socialism is the religion people get when they lose their religion")
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To: NYer
Among the Christian churches, only the Catholic Church has existed since the time of Jesus. Every other Christian church is an offshoot of the Catholic Church. The Eastern Orthodox churches broke away from unity with the pope in 1054. The Protestant churches were established during the Reformation, which began in 1517. (Most of today’s Protestant churches are actually offshoots of the original Protestant offshoots.)

You forgot to note that the Roman Church broke away from the universal Church in about 325 to worship itself.

107 posted on 12/27/2005 8:16:20 AM PST by gscc
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To: NYer
God bless you on your journey.

Thank you for the "Dear Friend" comment too, that was very gracious of you.

Now ,I saw something in the last post that made me think about what we are discussing. Here it is:

Among the Christian churches, only the Catholic Church has existed since the time of Jesus. Every other Christian church is an offshoot of the Catholic Church.

I do not neccessarily deny this, but what I object too about the Catholic church is the focus of your teaching, as with ALL Christian churches now, we need to be very careful about who and what doctrine we are letting in and how we conduct oursleves as a church.

The liberal Gay priesthood thing, is abominable. Now that is not saying the Catholic church condones this because it doesn't as a whole, but you certainly have Priest and Bishops that do condone it! Are these the same ones from the lineage of the apostles who have been passed the authority to forgive sin?

These problems are not new, they have been happening since the first churches, they go back to the SEVEN churches, there is no better study about the problems we face and what to do about them than Jesus' own letters to past and future churches. The Key is all wrapped up in these Seven letters.

Why do you think God picked those particular Seven churches?...I mean what about the church of Jerusulem, or Rome, or Antioch, (the outreach) he could have looked at so many churches with problems and what to do about those problems, but he chose those Seven. Think about this. Read the letters. Notice how somthing changes about them after Pergamos. Remember the letters are written to YOU!

119 posted on 12/27/2005 3:51:29 PM PST by sirchtruth (Words Mean Things...)
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