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To: Mind-numbed Robot
yes he had a choice...God knew what choice he was going to make.

that's the diff between predestination and foreknowledge...

of course that's just my opinion...and I could be wrong.

13 posted on 12/19/2005 7:31:22 AM PST by Dick Vomer (liberals suck......... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.)
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To: Dick Vomer
God knew what choice he was going to make.

Doesn't that by its nature eliminate choice?

of course that's just my opinion...and I could be wrong.

As can I. We are dealing as best we can with the tools and conditioning given us.

19 posted on 12/19/2005 7:37:29 AM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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To: Dick Vomer
yes he had a choice...God knew what choice he was going to make. that's the diff between predestination and foreknowledge... of course that's just my opinion...and I could be wrong.

Of course you are correct. You got to the very heart of the entire event of Judas.

If God hadn't allow Judas to choose evil, then the entire concept of free will would be meaningless. Judas was God's "tool" because it was Judas' own sad choice to betray Jesus. No victimology here with Judas.

34 posted on 12/19/2005 8:23:22 AM PST by starfish923 (Socrates: It's never right to do wrong.)
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