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To: RobbyS

*****"...with regard to this matter, nor the doctrine of the Trinity as laid down by the ecumenical councils."

Do you know of anything regarding the doctrine of the Trinity as put forth by the councils that can not be referenced by Scripture?



*****"many Protestants are actually Nestorians"

I don't know of any that woud hold to Nestorian heresy - except the liberal, and they are only half-Nestorican (Jesus only had a human nature).




*****"Marianology is so closely linked to Christology, that where one "demotes" Mary, one tends to demote Christ."

My concern is that the exalation of Mary is an attack on the unique ness of Christ. I hear Catholic teaching and theology that ascribes to Mary attributes which in the Bible I only find ascribed to God. I don't mena to provoke here - just being honest.



94 posted on 12/12/2005 10:50:03 AM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: PetroniusMaximus
Of course there are excesses. What I am pointing out is the excesses in the other direction.

As a matter of fact, the use of the philosophic terms " substance" and "person." (in the Latin) was famously debated. But mention of the Scriptures only points out the very reason for the Councils, which was the ambiguity of the Scriptures on the relationship of Jesus (and the Holy Ghost) to the Father. Arius quoted Scripture, also. Despite them we have in the end, three prominent "trinitarian" views" The Nestorian, the Monophysite, and the Orthodox. That in addition to the older Sabellian view. Speaking of neglect, ask someone WHO they think the Holy Spirit is. The Pentecostals are the only ones who give "Him" due worship, but what do they believe ABOUT him? There is a lot of theological primitivism in all the churches, because people think that we ought not even to attempt to answer such questions. Deference to mystery is one thing, but that does not keep scientists from delving into the nature of "matter." even though matter increasingly seems an intellectual construct.
95 posted on 12/12/2005 11:19:31 AM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: PetroniusMaximus

Explained in TRUE DEVOTION TO MARY,or the Dheuy Rheims Catholic version (RED) BIBLE..the oldest and truest BIBLE >>ALSO refered to as the HADDOCK BIBLE>>>>


97 posted on 12/13/2005 6:13:53 PM PST by Rosary (Pray the rosary daily,wear the Brown scapular)
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