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To: Ronaldus Magnus; Campion

"but I wanted to make sure that you and anyone reading your post understood that the first part of the statement you were agreeing with was completely contrary to Church doctrine."

Amazing how Campion can basically quote the Scriptures verbatium and yet be told that his statement is "completely contrary to Church doctrine".

Campion:
"NO one is sinless, NO ONE - that is why ALL need Christ, even Mary."


Paul:
As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one... For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God"
(Rom 3)


157 posted on 12/09/2005 3:13:54 PM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: PetroniusMaximus; Campion
Paul: As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one... For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God" (Rom 3)

Surely, as a presumably good protestant with a well worn bible you know that Paul was quoting Psalm 14, don't you?

And in that context, you surely know that Psalm 14 goes on to say, But wait, I thought it just said that no one was just? Maybe there is more to this than just the figurative generalization. Furthermore, as you know doubt already know, Paul also said in Romans 5:14, And who are these people who did not sin? What you failed to mention about your partial quote of Romans 3:10-23 is the context of what Paul was saying. His point was that salvation is open to both Jews and gentiles, and that both can be saved only through Christ's redemptive sacrifice for all. Even though Paul doesn't specifically exclude Mary from the generalization he used to make this point, he didn't specifically exclude Christ, either.
163 posted on 12/09/2005 6:13:05 PM PST by Ronaldus Magnus
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