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For the history from the Roman Catholic perspective I would recommend the following posts:


1 posted on 12/07/2005 4:35:36 AM PST by HarleyD
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History ping. Only 3 left in this series.


2 posted on 12/07/2005 4:36:32 AM PST by HarleyD ("Command what you will and give what you command." - Augustine's Prayer)
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The problem was a defective view of the satisfaction provided in Christ’s atoning work, which meant that the problem was really centered in a defective view of justification or how sinners were justified before God.

From part 8: defective view - must be the understatement of all time

Thanks.

4 posted on 12/07/2005 6:04:09 PM PST by Dahlseide (TULIP)
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Historically this caricatures the Cajetan-Luther exchange. See Jared Wicks's books on Luther and Cajetan.

1. Translating a long article Wicks wrote for the Dictionnaire de Spiritualite is the book Luther and his spiritual legacy (Wilmington, Del. : M. Glazier, Date: 1983)

2. Cajetan Responds: A Reader in Reformation Controversy>/i> (Catholic University of America Press, 1978)

3. Luther's reform : studies on conversion and the church, Veröffentlichungen des Instituts für Europäische Geschichte Mainz. Beiheft ; 35 (Mainz : Verlag P. von Zabern, Date: 1992)

4. Man yearning for grace; Luther's early spiritual teaching (Washington, Corpus Books, 1968)

Wicks studied carefully the archives relating to the Cajetan story. Cajetan did not accuse Luther of heresy. He told him he was a rash theologian. As I have posted before, behind his back, others were maneuvering to have Luther arrested for heresy. The story as told here is an embellished Protestant myth. Wicks admires Luther. He is not a Catholic hack historian. And he's a far more careful historian than the sources upon with this preacher depends.

The specific details of the events of 1518 based on Wick's archival studies were published in a long article in a scholarly journal about the time of the book Luther and His Spiritual Legacy. I don't have the citation immediately at hand but perhaps can post it later. But the guts of his argument will be found in his 1992 book.

7 posted on 12/08/2005 8:08:47 AM PST by Dionysiusdecordealcis
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