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To: RnMomof7
Then he understood, man is not damned because he is a sinner, he is damed because he does not have a Savior to redeem him

That's not how I would express it, but that's fine.

My point is that there is a constant refrain in these sorts of Luther hagiographies ... "Luther was an awesome Catholic and a super-monk -- it got him nowhere in his life of faith".

The truth is that he was a very confused Catholic and a very neurotic monk. It wasn't all his fault, of course.

hell will be full of men that thought they were 'good enough' and could pass the self righteousness test.

I have bad news for you. There are plenty of men and women around today who are bad, who know it, and who glory in it, to fill hell all by themselves, not leaving much room for the merely self-righteous. But that's a topic for another day.

34 posted on 12/13/2005 7:57:39 PM PST by Campion ("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
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To: Campion
The truth is that he was a very confused Catholic and a very neurotic monk. It wasn't all his fault, of course.

It is amazing that God uses the most imperfect vessels for HIS glory.In Luther He saved His church from the gates of hell prevailing against His church.

42 posted on 12/14/2005 3:01:24 PM PST by RnMomof7 ("Sola Scriptura,Sola Christus,Sola Gratia,Sola Fide,Soli Deo Gloria)
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