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To: sandyeggo
"So, in essence, are you saying that you can do whatever the heck you want for the rest of your life? Murder, etc? And still go to Heaven?"

 

What did Paul say a few chapters later?

What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound? By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it?

Do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? We were buried therefore with him by baptism into death, in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, we too might walk in newness of life.

For if we have been united with him in a death like his, we shall certainly be united with him in a resurrection like his.

We know that our old self was crucified with him in order that the body of sin might be brought to nothing, so that we would no longer be enslaved to sin. For o­ne who has died has been set free from sin.

Now if we have died with Christ, we believe that we will also live with him. We know that Christ being raised from the dead will never die again; death no longer has dominion over him. For the death he died he died to sin, o­nce for all, but the life he lives he lives to God. So you also must consider yourselves dead to sin and alive to God in Christ Jesus.

Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal bodies, to make you obey their passions. Do not present your members to sin as instruments for unrighteousness, but present yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life, and your members to God as instruments for righteousness. For sin will have no dominion over you, since you are not under law but under grace.
-Rom 6

51 posted on 11/30/2005 10:28:13 AM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: PetroniusMaximus
Do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? We were buried therefore with him by baptism into death, in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, we too might walk in newness of life.

Right. The gates of heaven are now open to us through baptism, the eternal punishment due original sin (loss of heaven) is remitted. However we still suffer the other punishments of original sin. We still get sick, we still get old, we still have to die (among many other things.)only now, since we have been baptized, and through baptism have sanctifying grace these sufferings can have merit.

It works the same way with the actual sins we commit. If we give up the gift of sanctifying grace from our baptism by the commission of mortal sin, we can repent and be forgiven and once again have sanctifying grace which allows us to get to heaven, (through Sacramental Confession by the way), but we still must suffer the temporal punishments due those actual sins we committed and repented of.

54 posted on 11/30/2005 11:26:23 AM PST by murphE (These are days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed but his own. --G.K. Chesterton)
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