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To: Campion

"Now, what about the extent to which you or I can pay? Aren't we morally obligated to do something about that?"

If you pay for something, it is no longer a gift.

"For what does the Scripture say? "Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness." 4Now to the one who works, his wages are not counted as a gift but as his due. 5And to the one who does not work but trusts him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is counted as righteousness,"

-Rom 4


46 posted on 11/30/2005 8:41:48 AM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: PetroniusMaximus
If you pay for something, it is no longer a gift.

Nonsense. If you buy me a new Cadillac as a gift, and I tidy up your yard when you're on vacation out of gratitude, have I paid for the Cadillac? Is it no longer a gift?

And, going back to my original example, if you insist that your son pay for the window he broke, is your forgiveness no longer a gracious gift?

God will work miracles if you'll only let him out of your manmade Reformed theological box.

58 posted on 11/30/2005 11:40:57 AM PST by Campion ("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
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