[Kolokotronis]

Actually, S, I wasn't being facetious. Does it actually mean listening, as with the ears, to them tell their stories? If so, aside from keeping the orthodox engaged with "listening" while the lesbigay sappers undermine the foundations of the Anglican communion, are the orthodox supposed to hear something which will convince them that sin is not sin. If that is so, this seems to be a potentially successful tactic and one which has a bright future in much of protestantism which seems to have fully rejected the "metanoia" required of Christians if the Fathers and the Scriptures are to taken at all seriously. What I mean is, people in the West today really don't want to hear that they have to change their ways and die to the self. That's a hard thing for a hard working middle class American with a house in suburbia, two cars and bills to pay to hear; even harder to implement.

[LibreOuMort]

My hope in all this is that the gays are listening also when Peter Akinola speaks the truth in love. It takes courage to get close to these particular misfits in Nigeria - it could get you killed. Listening builds trust - and in an atmosphere of trust you can tell the truth. Healing will only begin in the church if ALL sinners repent and turn to Christ. Is that not correct?

[sionnsar]

Actually, S, I wasn't being facetious. Does it actually mean listening, as with the ears, to them tell their stories? If so, aside from keeping the orthodox engaged with "listening" while the lesbigay sappers undermine the foundations of the Anglican communion, are the orthodox supposed to hear something which will convince them that sin is not sin. If that is so, this seems to be a potentially successful tactic and one which has a bright future in much of protestantism which seems to have fully rejected the "metanoia" required of Christians if the Fathers and the Scriptures are to taken at all seriously. What I mean is, people in the West today really don't want to hear that they have to change their ways and die to the self. That's a hard thing for a hard working middle class American with a house in suburbia, two cars and bills to pay to hear; even harder to implement.

Ko, I know you weren't being facetious. I was, but only to make a point about how the Anglican "process" is being taken advantage of. The small text at the end of my response was at least a simple answer. But the subsequent part of your response says to me that you already understand the situation fully, and I confirm what you've said.