[Rosary]

B-16..WOW -what disrespect!

SSPX only stuck with Tradition as far as ANY one can see--- or prove--they are NOT in any SCHISM-they never changed from the old rules and regulations of the CAtholic Church and they have every marytr on their side.
Pope Benedict XVI ..prayers for him.

[BlackElk]

Indeed, my prayers are with and for B-XVI and may his steadfastness in the Faith lead him to follow his mentor, John Paul II, in the wisdom of continuing to exclude the SSPX as schismatic and its execrable leaders and adherents as excommunicated, unless and until they have been appropriately humiliated and demonstrated their return to the Faith and their repudiation of dead Marcel and his works and pomps, as it were. May any SSPXers who successfully reprent and perform their penances as publicly as their sins of scandal inter alia, be frog-marched through Vatican Square in sackcloth and ashes, weeping oceans in their just humiliation. If it were up to me, the rest would be "chastised" for a few months and then burned at the stake. But, hey, that's just me and the world has degenerated too badly for me to expect to see such acts of justice in my lifetime.

As head of the Holy Office, do you imagine that Josef Cardinal Ratzinger was not consulted by JP II on the just ecclesiastical judgment and punishment of Marcel and his minions?

If B-XVI or ANY pope rules otherwise, I will follow, but no bureaucrat and no schismatic are empowered to overrule JP II's judgments against SSPX and its living leaders and adherents.

I suspect that dead Marcel is now beyond any mercy that may be extended. Unrepentant death often has that effect. Perhaps, he had a grace of final repentance. As my actually Catholic Jesuit teachers of the early 1960s taught, given the possibility of a grace of final repentance and the possible availability of a perfect act of contrition by the miscreant, even Stalin and Hitler may not be in hell. Likewise, dead Marcel, but one would be prudent not to bet one's eternal destination on any of them having made heaven.

[Conservative til I die]

SSPX only stuck with Tradition as far as ANY one can see--- or prove--they are NOT in any SCHISM-they never changed from the old rules and regulations of the CAtholic Church and they have every marytr on their side. Pope Benedict XVI ..prayers for him.

THey are in schism, because the person in authority to say so -the Pope- has indeed said so. The SSPX have no authority over anything, so they don't get to decide whether or not they are schismatic. Of course, the SSPX doesn't actually respect the authority of the Pope so maybe they do have a say. Of course, that's one of the reason they're in schism.