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To: annalex

"I am not quoting Epicurus, but the Bible. Why the non-sequitur?"

Sorry, I thought it followed in the logical flow of the whole conversation - being as we're talking about disembodied "beauty" and all.



"but he was not cursed, nor was the earth..."

???

"And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake..."




"The Greeks' quest for God was wretchedly incomplete, but they knew beauty."

They know beauty... but they missed God! So why celebrate "beauty"???




"Luther could learn from them before he came up with his dungheap blasphemy. "

Hey! We're kind of friends - so I'm gonna let that slide...




"Stop being un-Catholic, -- it is an unbiblical thing to do."

What are you talking about? I love catholics!


198 posted on 11/22/2005 3:32:57 PM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: PetroniusMaximus
Non sequitur was to attach to the Church the defects of the ancient Greeks' worldview wholesale. One can appreciate beauty with the Greeks without sharing in their paganism.

This is the exact curse referring to the earth (Gen 3):

17 And to Adam he said: Because thou hast hearkened to the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldst not eat, cursed is the earth in thy work; with labour and toil shalt thou eat thereof all the days of thy life. 18 Thorns and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herbs of the earth. 19 In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread till thou return to the earth, out of which thou wast taken: for dust thou art, and into dust thou shalt return.
There is no curse on the earth, only on man's labor on earth.

The Greeks missed God in his entire majesty, but they found him revealed in the Creation, and they celebrated him.

202 posted on 11/22/2005 4:04:01 PM PST by annalex
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