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To: roamer_1
The word 'tsâbâ' does not form the linkage you seem to desire

Sure it does. Quoting myself: In Numbers 4/8 men are assigned to action צבא and in Exodus 38:8 and 1 Samuel 2:22 women are characterized as those performing the same action צבא. While we don't know what that action is, it is connected to the tabernacle per all four occurrences. That is your linkage.

The gate you must refer to is the gate between the Court of the Women and the Court of Israel, and thereby you seem to insist that these vestal virgins were allowed to enter the Court of the Men (where no woman could go, on pain of death), which can serve no liturgical purpose

Could be, and it could be that the somewhat mysterious service, צבא, was service directed to the women there assembled. Or it could be that the liturgical role in question was excluding women of marriageable age but exception was made for the virgins, who were allowed "at the door of the tabernacle" as the inspired text says. Like I said, it would be interesting to see the actual text banning women, since what you give is but a general description of the layout of the temple in your own words.

References from the traditions of Judaism, or at least those you have provided, can just as easily apply to the natural meaning of virgin in the Hebrew sense, and require no special circumstance or order, nor do they lend the credence you would require

I don't know what is "natural meaning of virgin in the Hebrew sense" and how it is different form the meaning of "virgin" in Dr. Marhsall's sense or, more to the point, in the Protoevagelium's sense. The point remains: they are at the door of the tabernacle; they were κατάκλειστοι and not simply παρθένοι; they had distinct functions making incense, baking ceremonial breads, and weaving the veil.

twisting the word of YHWH to fit the desires of men

I read the available evidence, some of it inspired and some not, and I do so objectively. I am not the one splitting hairs over assignment and action or suggesting that צבא must be said in military sense while it contradicts all four contexts we had in focus.

You had claimed these virgins had access to the High Priest as if it showed some special status they possessed

Don't put stuff in my mouth. I simply pointed out that epithet κατάκλειστοι is there for a reason and that epithet suggests some kind of separation from the rest of humanity.

the virgins that were kept

The rule of the English language is that all the verbs in a sentence have to be coordinated by tense, so if the narrative is in past tense that every verb in any role is in past tense also. I don't care how anyone translates it either; the original is clear enough, κατάκλειστοι, "under lock", or "locked", -- not a verb tense but a participle.

These virgins are the normal use of virgin, thus without implication, would naturally be daughters of the people generally.

Indeed, except they are given access to holy objects and described at least once as "under lock".

So the Jewish Temple Virgins' role was to be completely hidden?

It is manifestly not hidden since several scripture references and several tradition references are made to them. It is only hidden for people like yourself trying to deny evidence they don't like.

89 posted on 01/25/2013 6:11:53 PM PST by annalex (fear them not)
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To: annalex

I wonder if the folks at the Temple Institute have a colony of virgins producing artifacts for the next temple?

http://www.templeinstitute.org/contact.htm


90 posted on 01/25/2013 6:33:32 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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