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He didn't answer me, only ignored the inconvienent facts, among them being:

1.The attaching of an ordinal (such as “first”) or other appendage (such as “long”) to day does not always indicate a 24-hour day. See Zechariah 14:7, which uses “one day” or “a day” depending on the translation and Hosea 6:2. Scholars have long interpreted the use of day in these prophetic verses as meaning years or longer periods. There is no good reason to dismiss these examples simply because they are considered prophecy. In 1 Samuel 7:2, the word for day is translated as “long time” or “the time was long” and refers to twenty years. In Deuteronomy 10:10, day is translated as “the first time” and refers to forty days. In 1 Chronicles 29:27 the word for day is translated as “the time” and refers to forty years (some translations leave it out since the context makes it repetitive).

2.Similarly, the Hebrew for the phrase “evening and morning” or “evening, and there was morning” has usages not limited to 24-hour days. In fact, there are numerous usages in the Bible that this phrase, or variants of it, refers to continuous processes or activities. Exodus 18:13, 27:21, Leviticus 24:2-3 and Daniel 8:14,26 all use this phrase in a context of something that occurs on a continual basis over more than one 24-hour day.

3.The third day must have been longer than 24-hours, since the text indicates a process that would take a year or longer. On this day, the text specifically states that the land produced plants and trees. After they were produced, the text refers to seed bearing fruit being produced by these trees. Any horticulturist knows that fruit-bearing trees require several years to mature before they produce fruit. Note the text states that the land produced these trees (indicating a natural process) and that it all occurred on the third day. Obviously, such a “day” could not have been only 24 hours long.

Here's a bonus:

Both 1 Chronicles 16:15 and Psalms 105:8 refer to God commanding his word to “a thousand generations.” This seems to confirm that the genealogical listings were incomplete. A “thousand generations” also seems to roughly confirm scientific dating on human origins.

I did not ignore your post. All your examples used evening and morning in the context of a 24-hour day. Petronius answered them accordingly, so I did not feel the need to repeat it.

The fact still remains that using evening and morning to define a day points exclusively to a 24-hour period.

There was evening and morning, the nth day.

I'm not going to change your mind and you are not going to change mine, so we can agree to disagree.

JM

"2.Similarly, the Hebrew for the phrase “evening and morning” or “evening, and there was morning” has usages not limited to 24-hour days. In fact, there are numerous usages in the Bible that this phrase, or variants of it, refers to continuous processes or activities. Exodus 18:13..."

Rule #156 of arguing your point on the Internet: Repitition of a disproven argument, no matter how many times, does not make it more true.

"3.The third day must have been longer than 24-hours, since the text indicates a process that would take a year or longer."

Waaa, haaa, haaa, haaa!!! Stop! stop! Your're killing me!! God creates a whole universe and then has to hang out waiting for the fruit to ripen!!!! Ho, ho, ho - that's good!

"16:15 Remember his covenant forever, the word that he commanded, for a thousand generations"

It's refering to the future, friend. Abraham (to whom He first spoke the covenant in reference) was not 1,000 generations back from David.