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To: trisham
Bishop Matthew Clark has more to say on the issue of homosexuality in this 1997 homily:

I remember when this Mass was held, but I've never read the homily. What an eye opener... sigh

First off, I'd like to say that I don't hold anything against gays; what they're doing is their business and none of mine. I do have issues with the radical gay agenda of forcing their sexuality down our (and our children's) throats. I've been around the block a few times and I know of the subculture within the gay community that prey on adolecent boys, aka chicken hawks. Most of the sexual abuse by priests was done to adolecent boys. Those priests who did that were chicken hawks *not* pedophiles. I know the Roman Catholic Church will survive, but in the mean-time, it's being torn-apart by this sexual abuse scandal. Rhetorical question, why make this problem worse and raise suspicion on oneself by publically celebrating this lifestyle with a Mass...

I've read about the supposed communist infiltration of the church by the communists. Could this thing with apostate bishops being put in place be part of a similar plan, an attempt to bring down the church?
62 posted on 11/16/2005 11:26:23 AM PST by rochester_veteran (born and raised in rachacha!)
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To: rochester_veteran
I've read about the supposed communist infiltration of the church by the communists. Could this thing with apostate bishops being put in place be part of a similar plan, an attempt to bring down the church?

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I don't know. It certainly seems an attempt to bend the Church to their will.

63 posted on 11/16/2005 11:38:28 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: rochester_veteran

Read this whole article (yes, it is horrible) and you may see some connections; if not between communists and homosexuals in the Catholic church, but at least between homosexuals and those who completely deny the basic tenets of revealed religion while staying in the church with the goal of destroying it from within.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1523107/posts?page=45#45
Gay theology pioneer trusts 'God's shrewdness'
National Catholic Reporter ^ | November 2005 | Robert McClory

The article is a slavering, drooling, trembling, fawning article about an EX Jesuit homosexual "priest" whose goal is to destroy the Catholic church.


64 posted on 11/16/2005 11:50:50 AM PST by little jeremiah
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To: rochester_veteran
I remember when this Mass was held, but I've never read the homily. What an eye opener... sigh

In Bishop Clark's Homily in 1997 he's in complete and utter dhimmitude to these unrepentant rump rangers.

"....And lastly, and I think in a certain way, above all, we really need to know the faith and life experience of gay and lesbian sisters and brothers. Do we know their stories? Do we know the challenges they face? Do we know the richness of their spirit? Do we know the ways in which their faith has been tested? Do we know how some of our conduct and patterns can make their journeys more painful than they need to be? I raise these questions, not in any sense in the spirit of accusation or blame, but simply to convey, as best I can, what our sisters and brothers who are gay or lesbian have said to me and what has been said to me by their mothers and dads, grandmas and grandpas, and other people who love them, who are concerned that their offspring, whom they cherish, are not held in equal regard simply because they are gay and lesbian persons...."

Its disheartening to read such a whimpering apology from a bishop of all people. "Do we know how some of our conduct and patterns can make their journeys more painful than they need to be? There you have it: No faith, no courage...just grovelling and apologizing for the homophobic Christ: "Do we know the richness of their spirit?..." Yes, you flaming apostate, we know that spirit! It's called L-U-C-I-F-E-R

78 posted on 11/17/2005 4:36:27 AM PST by Antioch (Benedikt Gott Geschickt)
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