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To: victim soul; Scotswife
For years, I knew about and even witnessed a break-away church whose pastor was allowed to have a woman on the altar participating in the Consecration.

The break-away church would be Spiritus Christi . It is one of the rare instances where Clarke followed instructions from the Vatican.

On August 13, 1998, Bishop Matthew Clark, under pressure from Rome, removed Fr. Jim Callan as administrator after 22 years at Corpus Christi Church. The Vatican had trouble with three practices dear to the heart of Corpus Christi parishioners: the prominent role of women on the altar, the blessing of gay unions, and the offering of communion to those who were not Catholic.

On October 15, Mary Ramerman was fired from her position as associate pastor. The diocese demanded that she remove her alb and stole and not go near the altar during any church services. She refused. She did not want to send a message that women were not holy enough to approach the altar or deserving of equal participation in the church. In protest of Mary’s firing, several women in the parish put on purple stoles, a symbol of women’s ordination, and continued to stand at the altar week after week. On October 22, Fr. Enrique Cadena, the other associate pastor, was granted a leave of absence by the bishop for “rest and reflection.”

Since then, Mary Ramerman, an excommunicated woman in Rochester, N.Y., has been ordained, by a bishop of the Old Catholic Church in California, until recently a schismatic Catholic group dating from 18th-century Holland, but today also heretical in addition to being schismatic.


Priestess Mary Ramerman
Excommunicated from the RC Church
Now serving in the schismatic/heretical Old Catholic Church.

(sorry about that VC, but a picture is worth a thousand words).

34 posted on 11/14/2005 3:48:36 PM PST by NYer (“Socialism is the religion people get when they lose their religion")
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To: NYer

And when he dies, will Bishop Clark find himself answerable for the spiritual destruction of this woman, her enablers, her associates and her fans? Years of coddling them without proper pastoral care would make one wonder. Should they all continue down the path of perdition without repentance, will they, in turn, be thankful for the spiritual guidance they received all these years from their bishop?

Every bishop in the world ought to have these words sewn into his mitre, and decalled on the dashboard of his car: "Everyone to whom much has been given, of him much will be required; qnd of him to whom men commit much they will demand the more." Luke 12:48


48 posted on 11/15/2005 6:43:02 AM PST by magisterium
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