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To: Tax-chick
Socialism destroys the humanity of everyone involved.

I wish I could believe that it is "socialism" which brings out these responses. I think it's something more fundamental in our nature itself--more like Original Sin. To mention just one example, Rick Santorum's really thoughtful discussion of subsidiarity and social justice is the sort of thing some FReepers cite as evidence that he is a crackpot. What other sort of politician would take seriously the religious principles he professes to believe?

5 posted on 11/12/2005 5:43:23 AM PST by madprof98
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To: madprof98
I think it's something more fundamental in our nature itself--more like Original Sin.

Well, that's certainly true at the rock-bottom level. However, there are some social structures that are more conducive to the operation of Grace upon nature, and some that are less so.

What other sort of politician would take seriously the religious principles he professes to believe?

LOL! Many people have bought the idea that a society can function without reference to moral, that is religious, principles. The outcome in France would be instructive for them, if they're looking closely :-).

6 posted on 11/12/2005 7:43:19 AM PST by Tax-chick (I'm not being paid enough to worry about all this stuff ... so I don't.)
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To: madprof98

" I think it's something more fundamental in our nature itself--more like Original Sin."

Well, yes, certainly socialism is a reverberation of Original Sin. "You shall be as gods," the serpent said to Eve. IOW, you need not consult God as to matters of right and wrong; you can decide these things for yourself. Using your godlike intellectual powers you can design a utopia.

Surely "we are as gods" is the uncanny wail of the socialist.

"We can decide for ourselves how people should act, what is moral and immoral, who should have his property taken away and to whom it should be given." (Never mind that "Thou shalt not steal" stuff and that bit about not coveting. That's for the superstitious.)

"We can decide for ourselves what forms marriage should take and what types of sexual activity should be endorsed." (Every form of utopianism for at least the past 500 years, most especially including socialism and communism, has held out a promise of increased sexual license.)

The whole thing positively reeks of Original Sin, which is why I always say that leftism, whatever label it happens to be claiming at any given time, is of and from Satan.


9 posted on 11/12/2005 9:31:20 AM PST by dsc
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To: madprof98
To mention just one example, Rick Santorum's really thoughtful discussion of subsidiarity and social justice is the sort of thing some FReepers cite as evidence that he is a crackpot. What other sort of politician would take seriously the religious principles he professes to believe?

And then throws his support to baby killing Arlen Specter? Santorum's a political hack, no more and no less. And when he loses to Casey next year, it'll be well deserved. Good riddance.
12 posted on 11/12/2005 10:21:15 AM PST by Conservative til I die
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