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To: starfish923
Jesus didn't "leave us" the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit has always been with us.

No, that is not correct. Please read Acts 1:8 and Acts 2:38.

The essence of the Christian faith is on Christ, and His sacrifice for us. Christ must be recieved in your heart in order to be saved.

John 3:3.

47 posted on 11/13/2005 6:45:39 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot
Oh I see. YOU are the interpreter of the Scripture now. No Peter. No Rock. THAT Scripture you choose to ignore and I am incorrect. ALL that's needed is belief, no actions, just belief. Easy Christianity. Nothing to do in life but believe; and you quote Scripture to validate that. This is your brand of "born again."
No wonder people like it -- easy.
It sure wasn't the way Jesus and his disciples lived. Most died martyr deaths....but not born-agains. What an easy ethos. I guess that born-agains can also interpret the Scripture the way they want to and can choose WHICH choices of Scripture they want. SURELY not the part about Peter as the Rock on which Jesus built His church. That would NOT go along with born-again philosophy because they wouldn't be able to pick and choose the Scripture they chose to follow...or HOW they would want to interpret said hand-selected Scripture.
Sorry. No disrespect intended but that seems to be relative moralist thinking, only selected Scripture is used to validate personal interpretation.
You practice one-upmanship with Scripture quoting your choices to gainsay what doesn't tally with your brand of Christianity. You could probably do this all week. I admire your memory. Obvioulsy no one on earth guides your thinking but you. If challenged you probably would say that the Holy Spirit guides you.
No contradicting that. Easy Christianity for the studious.

Well if that's your style and brand of Christianity, enjoy. There are 1 billion+ Catholics who probably say that you are wrong. And then there are the Protestants (whose rather negative name described their founding), fractured, splintered beyond repair
[ African Methodist Episcopal African Methodist Episcopal Zion African Orthodox Church American Baptist Churches USA Amish ( Anabaptist Armenian Evangelical Church Assemblies of God Associated Gospel Churches of Canada Association of Vineyard Churches Baptist Baptist Bible Fellowship Branch Davidian Brethren in Christ Bruderhof Communities Calvary Chapel Calvinist Cell Church Charismatic Episcopal Church Children of God Christadelphian Christian Churches of God Christian Identity Christian Reformed Church Christian Science Church of God (Anderson) Church of God (Cleveland) Church of God (Seventh Day) Church of God in Christ Church of God of Prophecy Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints Church of Scotland Church of South India Church of the Brethren Church of the Lutheran Brethren of America Church of the Nazarene Church of the New Jerusalem Church of the United Brethren in Christ Church Universal and Triumphant Churches of Christ Churches of God General Conference Congregational Christian Churches Cumberland Presbyterian Church Disciples of Christ Episcopal Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church Evangelical Congregational Church Evangelical Covenant Church Evangelical Formosan Church Evangelical Free Church Evangelical Lutheran Church Evangelical Methodist Church Evangelical Presbyterian Fellowship of Christian Assemblies Fellowship of Grace Brethren Fellowship of Independent Evangelical Churches Free Church of Scotland Free Methodist Free Presbyterian Free Will Baptist Gnostic Hutterian Brethren International Church of the Foursquare Gospel International Churches of Christ Jehovah's Witnesses Living Church of God Local Church Lutheran Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod Mar Thoma Syrian Church Mennonite Messianic Judaism Methodist Moravian Church Nation of Yahweh New Frontiers International Orthodox Presbyterian Pentecostal Plymouth Brethren Presbyterian Presbyterian Church in America Primitive Baptist Protestant Reformed Church Reformed Reformed Baptist Reformed Episcopal Reformed Presbyterian Church Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints Revival Centres International Rosicrucian Seventh Day Baptist Seventh-Day Adventist Shaker Society of Friends Southern Baptist Convention Spiritist True and Living Church of Jesus Christ of Saints of the Last Days Unification Church Unitarian-Universalism United Church of Christ United Church of God United Free Church of Scotland@ United Methodist Church United Reformed Church Unity Church Unity Fellowship Church Universal Fellowship of Metropolitan Community Churches Waldensian Church Wesleyan Wesleyan Methodist Worldwide Church of God]
who have formed and continue to form and reform their own denominations. They quote the Scriptures to prove THEIR rightness...or, as what's happening now, they break from within because of each others' behaviors.
See how self-interpretation has served THEM. It's awful to see any Christian sect twist in the wind.
I'm sure that you'll come back with more words and yet another quote which again won't address any issue. You'll merely re-quote the same thing about only belief is necessary -- no actions, just words. Your depth of study is awesome.

St. Francis of Assisi once told priests: "Preach the Gospel. Use words if you have to."
Pax vobiscum.

48 posted on 11/13/2005 7:58:48 AM PST by starfish923 ( It's never right to do wrong. Socrates)
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