[RobbyS]

These "reforms" were decisions of angry men and women, not decisions from Jesus. HIS decisions were made for all time, not just until some angry people decided to "reform" what they didn't like.

Perfect description of the Reformation. Not even their admiters deny that Luther and Calvin were angry men. although they would say thast the anger was totally justified. But maybe Judas was angry with Jesus, that HE was not the messiah whom Judas (and perhaps the other members of the Twelve) expected.

[starfish923]

Perfect description of the Reformation. Not even their admiters deny that Luther and Calvin were angry men. although they would say thast the anger was totally justified. But maybe Judas was angry with Jesus, that HE was not the messiah whom Judas (and perhaps the other members of the Twelve) expected.

Anger: interesting way to deal with faith. Not a great way to start one's own religious movement. Not the foundation on which Jesus founded His.

[jcb8199]

And many Reformers kept many of the beliefs and/or practices of the Church, they just changed what they didn't like.