[HarleyD]

So basically it's a gift forced upon us? I don't agree with this statement. A gift has to be accepted.

Rom 9:25-26 As He says also in Hosea, "I WILL CALL THOSE WHO WERE NOT MY PEOPLE, 'MY PEOPLE,' AND HER WHO WAS NOT BELOVED, 'BELOVED.'" "AND IT SHALL BE THAT IN THE PLACE WHERE IT WAS SAID TO THEM, 'YOU ARE NOT MY PEOPLE,' THERE THEY SHALL BE CALLED SONS OF THE LIVING GOD."

God does the calling. It is man's arrogance's to think he can refuse God.

Joh 6:37 "All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will certainly not cast out.

We are given to the Son by the Father. The Son will not cast out those who the Father has given Him.

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[Conservative til I die]

God does the calling. It is man's arrogance's to think he can refuse God.

This flies directly in the face of what is in the Bible. And logic. We were born with free will. God gives us the gift of salvation. We can refuse that through our lack of faith and lack of good actions.