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To: wmfights
The sinner who would do this was never saved to begin with.

The beauty of being "Born Again" is that I have the blessed assurance that "once saved" "always saved".

How do you know you aren't one of those deluded sinner who was "never saved to begin with"? Many of them at one point or another thought they had your "blessed assurance," too. But they didn't (though they thought they did) because they were never saved to begin with. Your assurance seems pretty hollow to me; I'd rather stick with what the Bible says.

279 posted on 11/11/2005 1:54:11 PM PST by Campion (Truth is not determined by a majority vote -- Pope Benedict XVI)
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To: Campion; wmfights

But the Bible does speak of such things...

"Therefore, since we have been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ. Through him we have also obtained access by faith into this grace in which we stand, and we rejoice in hope of the glory of God.

More than that, we rejoice in our sufferings, knowing that suffering produces endurance, and endurance produces character, and character produces hope, 5and hope does not put us to shame, because God's love has been poured into our hearts through the Holy Spirit who has been given to us.


For while we were still weak, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly. For one will scarcely die for a righteous person--though perhaps for a good person one would dare even to die-- but God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.

Since, therefore, we have now been justified by his blood, much more shall we be saved by him from the wrath of God. For if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, now that we are reconciled, shall we be saved by his life. More than that, we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation."



Does not the above evidence a pretty strong assurance?


281 posted on 11/11/2005 1:59:31 PM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: Campion

[1]

That same day Jesus went out of the house and sat beside the sea.

[2] And great crowds gathered about him, so that he got into a boat and sat there; and the whole crowd stood on the beach.
[3] And he told them many things in parables, saying: "A sower went out to sow.
[4] And as he sowed, some seeds fell along the path, and the birds came and devoured them.
[5] Other seeds fell on rocky ground, where they had not much soil, and immediately they sprang up, since they had no depth of soil,
[6] but when the sun rose they were scorched; and since they had no root they withered away.
[7] Other seeds fell upon thorns, and the thorns grew up and choked them.
[8] Other seeds fell on good soil and brought forth grain, some a hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty.
[9] He who has ears, let him hear."

Matthew 13

There will be some of each.

It can be hard to know which group you will be part of!


282 posted on 11/11/2005 2:01:12 PM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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