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To: wmfights
The sinner who would do this was never saved to begin with.

Ah. Yes. The wonders of 20/20 hindsight. Supposing he walked around believing he was saved before this theoretical crime, you're saying it's not enough to tell people you're saved unless your actions reflect that?

The beauty of being "Born Again" is that I have the blessed assurance that "once saved" "always saved".

If you've been saved the Holy Spirit will transform you and you become a new man.

So once you are saved, you are infallible? You cannot commit a sin? How do you KNOW you are saved if you can't state here and now that you are infallible?

278 posted on 11/11/2005 1:53:38 PM PST by Rutles4Ever ("Fizellas! Looks like you guys are up to no good. Well, THIS gang used to be like that TOO, 3, 4)
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To: Rutles4Ever; wmfights; Campion
Ah. Yes. The wonders of 20/20 hindsight. Supposing he walked around believing he was saved before this theoretical crime, you're saying it's not enough to tell people you're saved unless your actions reflect that?

The sad part is that the other guy fell into this same logic trap. It's all right here on this thread for all to read. And it didn't stop Wmfights from saying the same illogical thing.

SD

280 posted on 11/11/2005 1:57:13 PM PST by SoothingDave
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To: Rutles4Ever
If you've been saved the Holy Spirit will transform you and you become a new man.

So once you are saved, you are infallible? You cannot commit a sin? How do you KNOW you are saved if you can't state here and now that you are infallible?


Being saved doesn't mean that you're perfect ... being saved means that your on the path to perfection.

As long as you're on the path to perfection, ... you're fullfilling God's requirements for where He wants you to be.

Recall that a feature of our chritian status is that God has adopted us into His family.

He is now our Father ... and He treats us as His children.

Jesus said that we don't even have the capacity to be as loving to our own children ... as the Father is to His.

Most earthly parents recognize typical imperfection/disobedience in their own children ... as a sign that they have further to mature, ... rather than as a reason to cast them out. I'm convinced that God sees this in a similar way ...
John 6:37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.
For what offense would you disown your own child ?

Would you disown them because they missed the weekly family meeting ?

361 posted on 11/12/2005 5:14:53 AM PST by Quester (If you can't trust Jesus, ... who can you trust ?)
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