Jorge Cardinal Medina Estevez to Celebrate Traditional Latin Mass in Church of Gesu

http://www.voiceofcatholicradio.com/catholicradiowebpage.htm | November 2005 | n/a

[Pyro7480]

The Voice of Catholic Tradition on Long Island (a traditional Catholic radio program, sympathetic to the SSPX), is reporting: A significant development has occured in Rome with the announcement that H.E. Jorge Cardinal Medina Estevez will celebrate a Solemn Pontifical Mass in the Latin Rite (Traditional) on Sunday, November 6, 2005 at the Church of the Gesu on the Via del Corso.

[Pyro7480]

Thanks for dashing my hopes. ;-)

[wideawake]

Explain this conspiracy/omen thing you guys are discussing.

[Pyro7480]

Oh, I posted some of the propers that they use on that Sunday. They indicated, in my initial view, that we should hope for the universal indult that is predicted to be announced on November 19th. But then jrny pointed out that those propers are used on all Sundays after the 23rd Sunday after Pentecost at the end of liturgical year. The Matthew 24 reading he refers to is the "abomination of desolation" reading from the Gospel.

[Pyro7480]

D'OH This is largely my fault. The church where this Mass is being offered is NOT the Jesuit mother church. The Church of the Gesu on the Via del Corso is the church where the Institute of Christ the King, Sovereign Priest has a Sunday/Holy Day Tridentine Mass.

[Petrosius]

I pray that next year it may be in BOTH churches.

[Pyro7480]

Now THERE'S an optimistic viewpoint. ;-)

[HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity]

Any further details on this?

While I try to be charitable, I am tempted to guess someone is hard up for money.

"Things have gotten so bad financially with the molestation scandal bankruptcies, the Jesuits have returned to the Latin Mass..." [diabolical irony]

[Pyro7480]

See my post #24. I was mistaken.

[Dajjal]

Sorry for being contrarian, but to my mind the fact that a cardinal of the Church saying this Mass is "news" simply reinforces the patronizing sentimental "indulgence" of the hierarchy in the "Indult" Mass.

The architects and implementors of Vatican II can well afford to "indulgently" throw us scraps now and then, as their agenda steamrolls forward.

[Romulus]

No; you were right the first time. The Gesù -- the Jesuit church -- is on the Via del Corso. The church assigned to the Institute of Christ the King, Sovereign Priest is the church of Gesù e Maria, on the Corso -- a different thorougfare than the Via del Corso. (The Via del Corso curves; the Corso runs in a straight line from Piazza Venezia to the Piazza del Popolo).

[Pyro7480]

Who knew that Rome could be so confusing!

[Pyro7480]

See Romulus' post #30.

[wideawake]

Thanks Romulus. I thought the picyures posted were of the Gesu.

BTW, how are you holding up and do you know if St. Patrick's survived the flood and the looting?

[Petrosius]

Wow, that was a fast answer to my prayers! I did not even have to wait to next year. ;-)

[Pyro7480]

The Gesu (Jesuit church) has a website, which indicates that the church is located on the Via degli Astalli. The Institute's website indicates that their church is indeed on the Via del Corso. It is confusing!!!

[Romulus]

The pictures posted by ELS are the Jesuit church; the one posted by Pyro is the other church.

St. Patrick's is doing pretty well. We have no physical damage, and looting was not a factor there. Not everyone is back yet, and my RCIA class is still very sparsely attended, but that is slowly improving. Some people were wiped out by the storm, and will be a long time recovering. Some will not be coming back (among them Askel, it appears -- please remember her in your prayers). So I have some concerns about whether finances will be adequate over the longer term, and how the Archdiocese may rearrange priests, property, and pecunia. We too will have a solemn High Mass this Sunday, at which I'll be MCing. It'll be the first SHM since June. I am looking forward to it, and take heart from the fact that Cardinal Estevez's Mass, unlike that of Cardinal Castrillon's at Sta. Maria Maggiore in 2003, seems not to be merely ex officio.

[Romulus]

The Gesu is located on the Corso Vittorio Emanuele II (its full name), which runs in a curve from Piazza Venezia to the Tiber. Its address may be on a side street (it occupies its own block) but it definitely fronts on the Corso. The Via del Corso (so named because in Medieval times its unusual straight-arrow layout made it a natural for horse-racing) runs from Pzza. Venezia to the Pzza del Popolo, as I said. I have the topography stright in my head, but had the names reversed. Yes, it is very confusing.

[ELS]

It truly is one of the most beautiful churches in Rome

When the Jesuits were building churches like this one, they really knew how to make 'em. I recently visited St. Ignatius Loyola in NYC. It's another beauty. (And by some miracle Cardinal Egan prevented the Jesuits from wreckovating it. Will wonders never cease?)

[wideawake]

Egan has nothing to with it. All the well-to-do Catholic families on the Upper East Side hold their weddings, christenings and funerals there because of how beautiful it is. That's where Jackie O had her funeral Mass!

I would guess that the Society gets an extra million or so in income from special events of this kind every year.

There's no way they're going to wreckovate it.

Wreckovation is for rubes in the sticks who actually believe all that stuff in the Catechism.

[Petrosius]

Oh well, back to prayer. Now where did I leave my rosary?