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To: colorcountry
When I accepted Christ atonement, when I truly recognized my sin and the horror of it...how dispicable it is to God. It made me perfect in His sight....it did not make my actions perfect (and he knows that, thus the sacrifice of his son.) I think the recognition - turning from - is the meaning of repentance. Repentance I think happens once and if you are truly born again it stays.

Uttterly ridiculous. Christ doesn't call for a one-time declaration of "repentance" that does not take into account our future ongoing conversion. Only those who obey the will of the Father will enter heaven, not those who say "Lord, Lord" (Mat 7:21). Recognizing Christ's Passion and Death and its meaning for us DOES NOT necessarily instill within us repentence. Clearly, if one repents of sin in 1990 has little effect on whether you will continue this walk. Proof? Consider Judas Iscariot. Did he not accept Jesus as his Lord and savior and repent from his sins? Wasn't he sent out with power and authority to heal in Christ's name? And yet, what happened to him? Eternal salvation is not guaranteed to anyone. Even your own concept ("This would indicate to me, that you have NOT been born again") precludes this. How do YOU know YOU are not going to become one of those who "really wasn't born again"? So much for the guarantee of eternal salvation...

And finally, NO ONE is perfect in God's sight on this earth! Just because you think that Christ died for your sins doesn't make you pleasing to God!

Recognizing you will sin and that you need Christ means you're saved.

"Saved" means to be healed, also. It doesn't ONLY mean to receive eternal salvation. Recognition of sin doesn't mean we are healed. Repentance and conversion is our indication that we are healed. What's the point of recognition if you don't intend to change?

Regards

48 posted on 10/25/2005 9:54:14 AM PDT by jo kus
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To: jo kus
"Saved" means to be healed, also. It doesn't ONLY mean to receive eternal salvation. Recognition of sin doesn't mean we are healed. Repentance and conversion is our indication that we are healed. What's the point of recognition if you don't intend to change?

Isn't this exactly what I said? I recognize that I'm not the most erudite person here on the religion thread, but I think if you read my post again you'll find that we agree.

This is what I posted...."Accepting your fallibility isn't the same as flaunting your sin....do you see the difference...repentance is a heart matter, thinking it's okay to sin means your damned."

49 posted on 10/25/2005 10:24:01 AM PDT by colorcountry (Proud Parent of a Soldier, a UPS Driver, an Executive, a Construction Worker, and a Student)
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