Posted on 10/23/2005 6:55:51 AM PDT by truthandlife
President George W. Bush has terribly misspoken about the true word of God and is likely to experience consequences in response to his errant remarks and beliefs that were pronounced publicly at the fifth annual Ramadan Banquet held in the State Dining Room at the White House.
Some quotes of note: “We must also firmly oppose all who commit evil in God's name.”…” I have great confidence in the future of this nation, and in the future of the Muslim world.”…” As we celebrate this special Iftaar, we renew the ties of friendship that bind all those who trace their faith back to God's call on Abraham.”…” Ramadan is the holiest time of the Muslim year. According to Islamic teaching, this month commemorates the revelation of God's word to the Prophet Muhammad in the form of the Koran. For more than a billion Muslims, Ramadan is a time of heartfelt prayer and togetherness. It is a time of fasting and personal sacrifice. It's a time to give thanks for God's blessings through works of charity.”
These were not the words of an Islamic cleric, but rather the words of the President of the United States as he welcomed Muslim leaders to the White House for his fifth annual Ramadan Banquet in the State Dining Room. The President initiated the “Iftaar” to foster better relations between Americans and Islam after the 9/11 terrorist attacks. It has become a tradition at the White House.
To the poltically correct this is a wonderful ecumenical, inter-faith outreach, but, Biblically it is a form of abomination in the very least, if not blasphemy. The President has made extraordinarily false claims equating the god of Islam with the one true God as he receives Islam rather than being salt and light to it.
The President has terribly misspoken. Allah and Jehovah are not the same. Muhammad, did not receive a “revelation of God’s word,” as was so aptly put by the President. Muhammad’s so-called revelation came thousands of years after God’s Biblical revelations and hundreds of years after Christ. Muhammad made up Allah and wrote a book designed not to foster friendship, but rather to continue enmity between Jews and Arabs. Muhmmad has perpetrated the creulist hoax upon millions of people—they believe in a non-existant god that will only result in the eternity of hell. That any Christian, let alone a Christian President dare claim Muhammad received a revelation from “God” is bordering heresey.
There is no other God than Jehovah. In Exodus 20:3, God commanded, “Thou shalt have no other gods before me.” And in Ezekiel 3:18, God says, “When I say unto the wicked, You shall surely die; and you give him no warning, nor speak to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at your hand.”
The President is ignoring the word of God to patronize a false religion when he professes to know the truth, and the blood shall be on his hand. These are very dangerous proclamations made by the President because they not only reflect upon him, but also upon the nation he leads.
As long as President Bush panders to Islam of ANY kind we will always be accepting partial responsibility for terrorism. Let Islam clean up their own back yard: Syria, Iran, Sudan, etc. etc. etc. If they truly are a "religion of peace" the only way we will find out is when we force them to deal with it. I'm sick of American blood being shed for these people. "Islam is a peaceful religion BUT ... Is Islam a "religion of peace"? OK. Let them PROVE IT. Otherwise all of our arguments are nothing more than mental masturbation and won't accomplish anything except more bloodshed, more "insurgents", more "terrorists", more pandering to "peaceful" Muslims, and more arguments and ridiculous discussions on threads like this ... /rant
AMEN on Sunday
Good for you! Your comments are spot on! This is a republic, not a theocracy; he is the elected president, not the chief priest or mullah!
As for the rest of you, I just returned from the Divine Liturgy of St. John Chrysostomos, the oldest liturgy regularly used in Christianity; the same Liturgy my family has been attending for the past 1700 years or so. My people also spent hundreds of years under the heel of the Mohammadens. We understand Christianity, put together the canon of Scripture you all use and quote from and certainly understand what we Christians are up against with Islam. But here's the truth, when I go to Liturgy in an Arab Christian Church, I pray to "Allah", when I pray the prayer of +Isaac the Syrian, I do full body prostrations...just like Orthodox people have been doing for 1700 or more years! And from an Orthodox Christian pov, the president said absolutely nothing which is blasphemous or inappropriate. If you want to blast him, blast him for that idiotic remark about Islam being the Religion of Peace, but not for this stuff! Your comments do no credit to Christianity.
Actually, they don't. And they think that any reference to Jesus as divine is blasphemy and in a muslim country, they would probably kill you for such a statement.
"Muslims believe that the Judeo-Christian deity and Allah are the same entity.
Actually, they don't. And they think that any reference to Jesus as divine is blasphemy and in a muslim country, they would probably kill you for such a statement."
"As for the rest of you, I just returned from the Divine Liturgy of St. John Chrysostomos, the oldest liturgy regularly used in Christianity; the same Liturgy my family has been attending for the past 1700 years or so. "
Thx for the scolding. But you are still wrong. I have had plenty of muslim friends and they most certainly do not believe that their Allah is the same deity as the God of the Jews and Israel.
For a godless atheist, you treat others as I would expect.
Either he speaks the truth or he doesn't. You can't say one thing and then believe something else. One of them is a lie.
How true! What they need is a lesson from a know-it-all non-believer. That ought to fix 'em right up.
"How true! What they need is a lesson from a know-it-all non-believer. "
One need not be a Christian to know the history of Christianity. It's all pretty much available to anyone who wishes to study it, as are the scriptures of Christianity.
You'd be surprised how much knowledge the atheists around here have of various religions.
"How little most Christians know about the history of their faith."
Western Christians tend to be rather "provincial" in their views (and sometimes not a little chauvinistic too, unfortunately)! :)
Have a great weekend...or what's left of it.
Bill Clinton had the good sense not to celebrate Ramadan and did not offend Christians and Jews by making blasphemous remarks against the Triune God. Supporting false religions is not required of presidents in our constitution. I would much rather have him not say anything at all about religion than this pandering to false gods for political reasons. God's judgement will be upon him and this country for these idolatrous actions.
Here is another article on the subject:
"But Bush's annual Ramadan Moon dinner displays an almost breathtaking ignorance of Islam, one so profound it is difficult to believe that somebody in his administration would have pointed out some of the more salient truths about the religion of 'faith and family'.
Sura Anfal:12ff and Sura Muhammad:3ff command the beheading of unbelievers; Sura al-Nisa’:34ff allows for beating of one’s wives; verses 74ff and 94ff, promise great reward for those who die fighting for Allah; Sura al-Ma’idah:51 says, “Believers, take neither Jews nor Christians for your friends.”
http://www.omegaletter.com/articles.asp?ArticleID=5770
I agree with most of what The President does, but not this.
There must be something one of us are missing about this religion of peace crap.
Gee, maybe he wants to avoid turning a a few thousand Jihadists into a few million?
"Bill Clinton had the good sense not to celebrate Ramadan and did not offend Christians and Jews by making blasphemous remarks against the Triune God."
"There must be something one of us are missing about this religion of peace crap."
Gee, maybe he wants to avoid turning a a few thousand Jihadists into a few million?"
There are better ways to do that than kissing their anus.
Appeasement isnt the answer and never will be.
He could be cordial at a distance and that would be enough for me. If they want to become jihadists they will find a way regardless. Pretending they are our best buds doesnt fool us or them. I do not fear offending them as you do.
LOL - that was funny.
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