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To: A.A. Cunningham
The question you should be asking is why so few men, particularly those who claim to be "Bible believers", considering the praise and encouragement given to the discipline of celibacy in Scripture by Christ, St. Paul, et al choose and/or reject said discipline

It's not a waffle, my friend. You obviously objected to my statement that celibacy is a freely elected discipline and not mandated by the Scripture, so I merely asked you to show where it was.

As for the calling, the monastic life of East and West Christendom chooses celibacy as higher and purer life style -- that choice, however, is not so much a choice as much as it is a conversion, when worldly passions subside as one dies unto himself. The more spiritual one becomes the more celibate he will be.

I respect the Latin tradition of imposing a mandatory celibacy on all its clergy. It is a discipline of the Church, as is the married clergy of the East. It's all one Church.

As for "Bible belivers," I have made it very clear that anything other than the Apostolic Church is not a church by definition of authority, so no need to delve into their "understanding" of any tradition.

26 posted on 10/28/2005 10:15:51 AM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50
No it is a waffle, your weak attempt at damage control notwithstanding.

Your first mistake "Celibacy in the Latin Church is a long-standing, self-imposed human discipline, nothing else. It is not Scriptural." then you tried to massage that gaffe by asking "Where does it say in the Scripture that celibacy is required?"

As you have previously stated "No need to sugarcoat the truth." pal. You screwed up. Admit it.

27 posted on 10/28/2005 10:59:16 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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