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To: Pyro7480

Sure, what about those of us Catholics who do NOT use the Latin rite or Latin in any way, shape or form.

I don't oppose Latin in the Latin Church, but I do have a problem with the idea that Latin=Catholic. The Latin language contributed to the schism with the Greek East because it is NOT as precise of a language as Greek to dealing with abstract theological terms. The filioque is a prime example of how the Latin language mangled theology.

Why not Church Slavonic, Syriac, Classical Armenian, Byzantine Greek or Ge'ez?


115 posted on 10/14/2005 9:36:11 PM PDT by JohnRoss (We need a real conservative in 2008)
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To: JohnRoss
The filioque is a prime example of how the Latin language mangled theology.

Is the below "mangled theology"? (From the "Roman" Catechism, the Catechism of the Council of Trent)

"Who Proceedeth from the Father and the Son"

With regard to the words immediately succeeding: who proceedeth from the Father and the Son, the faithful are to be taught that the Holy Ghost proceeds by an eternal procession from the Father and the Son, as from one principle. This truth is proposed for our belief by the Creed of the Church, from which no Christian may depart, and is confirmed by the authority of the Sacred Scriptures and of Councils.

Christ the Lord, speaking of the Holy Ghost, says: He shall glorify me, because he shall receive of mine. We also find that the Holy Ghost is sometimes called in Scripture the Spirit of Christ, sometimes, the Spirit of the Father; that He is one time said to be sent by the Father, another time, by the Son, -- all of which clearly signifies that He proceeds alike from the Father and the Son. He, says St. Paul, who has not the Spirit of Christ belongs not to him. In his Epistle to the Galatians he also calls the Holy Ghost the Spirit of Christ: God hath sent the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying: Abba, Father. In the Gospel of St. Matthew, He is called the Spirit of the Father: It is not you that speak, but the Spirit of your Father that speaketh in you.

Our Lord said, at His Last Supper: When the Paraclete cometh whom I will send you, the Spirit of truth, who proceedeth from the Father, he shall give testimony of me. On another occasion, that the Holy Ghost will be sent by the Father, He declares in these words: whom the Father will send in my name. Understanding these words to denote the procession of the Holy Ghost, we come to the inevitable conclusion that He proceeds from both Father and Son.

The above are the truths that should be taught with regard to the Person of the Holy Ghost.

116 posted on 10/14/2005 10:43:26 PM PDT by Pyro7480 (Blessed Pius IX, pray for us!)
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