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To: mike182d
Christ isn't going to rebel against the Church's authority - thereby undermining it - and call married men to the priesthood.

The Church already ordains married men. There has never been a period in time that it didn't. The Latin Rite has chosen MANDATORY celibacy. Your argument is based on a statement that pertains to faith and morals. Celibacy is a discipline. It is a great gift to those who can accept it and use it to build up the kingdom. But, nonetheless, a discipline.

8 posted on 10/14/2005 8:46:54 AM PDT by ThomasMore (Time to remove the Gays from the hierarchy!)
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To: ThomasMore
The Church already ordains married men.

The Latin Rite of the Catholic Church has not "ordained" any married men, at least to my recollection. It does allow for Byzantine Rite priests to marry and if a married man was ordained in another tradition prior to conversion, the Church acknowledge his priestly status, but it doesn't ordain married people as priests.

Your argument is based on a statement that pertains to faith and morals. Celibacy is a discipline.

Yes, but a priest takes a vow of obedience which means that in order for any man to become priest in the Latin Rite, they must, by necessity, be competely obedient to the will of the Magesterium. This type of discline is not on the same level as, say, not eating fish on Friday's.

Christ, through the Church and the Church only, confers upon a man the office of priest. Thus, if Christ truly desired for married men to be priests in the Latin Rite, would He not first make changes to that through which He makes men priests in the first place?

I knew a girl who, through much prayer, thought at one time that she was being called to be ordained a priest. What's the best way to "test the spirits" of one's discernment? By what Christ allows through the Church - that is why He gave it to us, as a guide.

My point is that if Christ wanted married men in the Latin Rite to become priests, He would tell the Church before He told the would-be Seminarian. That's the whole reason we have a hierarchy to begin with.
10 posted on 10/14/2005 9:18:53 AM PDT by mike182d ("Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?")
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