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To: Theophane
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"The Holy Council declares moreover: The Church has always had, in the dispensation of the sacraments, their substance being saved, the power to decide or to modify what she judges better to suit the spiritual utility of those who receive them or with respect to the sacraments themselves, according to the variety of circumstances, times and places.

*Your personal opinions about what H.M. Church is at liberty to legislate about is neither interesting nor does it evince sound theological insight.

48 posted on 10/14/2005 6:48:50 AM PDT by bornacatholic
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To: bornacatholic

I see that you must be one those charitable Novus Ordo conservatives.

And before you quote St Augustine and others to the effect of the need for "tough love," I can tell you from my own observations in sveeral quarters, including discussions with many cradle Catholics that a lot of the problems in the Church today stem, psychologically, from those in the pre-conciliar time who dispensed "tough love"--only it meant all tough and no love.

With regard to the replied to post and the one following it, with lots of highlighted portions from Mediator Dei, none of which I disagree with, of course, I do not question the power of the Pope or the bishops to legislate changes to the accidents of the rite, just the wisdom of some of them in the post-conciliar implementation of the Council's own very good document on the liturgy.

In spite of our differences on this matter, I would ask your prayers for me, and promise to do the same for you.


53 posted on 10/14/2005 8:39:56 AM PDT by Theophane
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