[NYer]

Bishop Arnold Orowae of Wabag, Papua New Guinea - said the church needs to reflect on "what kind of priest" they need in their situation, and he asked the church to consider allowing the ordination of "mature Christian men who are strong in faith, very committed, and have the respect of the people." Often times these so-called "viri probati," or "men of proven virtue," are older, married men.

Wagglebee - This is unfortunately true, but the solution is not to increase the frequency by rendering the entire Sacrement meaningless by destroying the priesthood.

bigsigh - Destroying the priesthood. LOL! You need a serious lesson in church history.

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Let's clear the air and take a fresh look at wagglebee's statement. He is pointing to a comment made by Bishop Orowae who suggests the Catholic Church allow for 'older married men' to become priests. You claim he is unfamiliar with church history but give no additional information. This topic surfaces at each and every synod. It is discussed, and at the end of the synod, it dies like a grape on the vine.

If you are to accuse another person of a poor understanding of 'church history', then please provide documented resources to substantiate your claim.

[wagglebee]

Paul wrote extensively about the virtue of celibacy, we need clergy with a true calling.

[bigsigh]

If you followed the thread you'd know that both he and I know that the church allowed married priests and has married priests now. Your attempt to support him by attacking me is weak and indicates a lack of understanding of the entire exchange between the two of us. I don't know why you would do such a thing, but it says a lot about your character. The next time you want to support some ignorant reactionary, get the story straight first or at least read the thread.