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Archbishop Jan Lenga of Kazakhstan: Restore Tabernacle, Stop Communion in the Hand
Vatican Information Service ^ | 10/5/2005 | Archbishop Jan Pawel Lenga M.I.C

Posted on 10/06/2005 10:13:03 AM PDT by Pyro7480

FOURTH GENERAL CONGREGATION

VATICAN CITY, OCT 4, 2005 (VIS) - The Fourth General Congregation of the Eleventh Ordinary General Assembly of the Synod of Bishops began in the Synod Hall at 4.30 p.m. today, Tuesday. The president delegate on duty was Cardinal Juan Sandoval Iniguez, archbishop of Guadalajara, Mexico, and there were 242 Synod Fathers present.

Following are excerpts from a number of the speeches given:

ARCHBISHOP JAN PAWEL LENGA M.I.C. OF KARAGANDA, KAZAKHSTAN. "Among the liturgical innovations produced in the Western world, two in particular tend to cloud the visible aspect of the Eucharist, especially as regards its centrality and sacredness: the removal of the tabernacle from the center and the distribution of communion in the hand. ... Communion in the hand is spreading and even prevailing as being easier, as a kind of fashion. ... Therefore, I humbly propose the following practical propositions: that the Holy See issue a universal regulation establishing the official way of receiving communion as being in the mouth and kneeling; with communion in the hand to be reserved for the clergy alone. May bishops in places where communion in the hand has been introduced work with pastoral prudence to bring the faithful slowly back to the official rite of communion, valid for all local Churches."


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; General Discusssion; Prayer; Religion & Culture; Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: archbishop; blessedsacrament; catholic; communion; eucharist; kazakhstan; synod; vatican
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To: Pyro7480

I personally don't see how receiving communion in the hand is so terrible. I consider myself a very devout catholic, I bow before receiving him, genuflect before every tabernacle and even do the sign of the cross whenever I drive by a church.

Christ at the Last Supper, handed them the Eucharist, he didn't place tiny pieces on the tongue.

However, with that said, I would gladly kneel and receive the Eucharist on my tongue. If that is what the Holy Spirit wants, then that is what I will do.


21 posted on 10/06/2005 11:29:42 AM PDT by diamond6 (Everyone who is for abortion has already been born. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Pyro7480
Those are two separate issues which you are trying to cloud by comparison. If your belief in God is such that you must take communion by mouth while kneeling, then do so. Why worry about horror stories. Do what your spirit tells you is right.

Bottom line is that the Vatican has said that both methods are acceptable, unlike abortion.

22 posted on 10/06/2005 11:33:38 AM PDT by Military family member (Colts are in camp)
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To: Pyro7480

A major problem is that in most Parishes, Communion on the tongue is not offered, and more seriously, kneeling during Communion is hard in the "drive through" lines!


23 posted on 10/06/2005 11:40:44 AM PDT by Dominick ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." - JP II)
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To: diamond6
Christ at the Last Supper, handed them the Eucharist, he didn't place tiny pieces on the tongue.

The Church was very small at that point. Later, abuses came up, and the Church, in her wisdom, stopped that practice. The potential for those abuses have not ended, so why was communion on the hand allowed?

24 posted on 10/06/2005 11:49:19 AM PDT by Pyro7480 (Blessed Pius IX, pray for us!)
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To: Pyro7480
Kazakhstan eh!?

Hmmmmm..... (Bob Barker voice)....I sense a promotion in your future, your Grace.........oh yes I do......that's right.....you'll soon be moving to........ ***BELARUS***!!! (Thunderous applause...)

25 posted on 10/06/2005 11:49:35 AM PDT by marshmallow
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To: Pyro7480

I have a new hero! God bless the Archbishop!


26 posted on 10/06/2005 11:51:51 AM PDT by Maeve (Praying........)
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To: marshmallow
Hmmmmm..... (Bob Barker voice)....I sense a promotion in your future, your Grace.........oh yes I do......that's right.....you'll soon be moving to........ ***BELARUS***!!! (Thunderous applause...)

LOL!!! And to think, I was accused earlier today in a private e-mail that I didn't have a sense of humor. Here's what I say to that person:

He don't know me very well - do he?

27 posted on 10/06/2005 12:00:00 PM PDT by Pyro7480 (Blessed Pius IX, pray for us!)
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To: Pyro7480
Pope Giacomo della Chiesa † (1907) (aka Benedict XIV)

Hmm, do you mean Benedict XV?

28 posted on 10/06/2005 12:23:41 PM PDT by ELS (Vivat Benedictus XVI!)
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To: ELS
Hmm, do you mean Benedict XV?

Whoops! Thanks for catching that! :-)

29 posted on 10/06/2005 12:24:46 PM PDT by Pyro7480 (Blessed Pius IX, pray for us!)
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To: diamond6; Pyro7480

However, all of the Apostles were ordained priests.


30 posted on 10/06/2005 12:26:44 PM PDT by nickcarraway (I'm Only Alive, Because a Judge Hasn't Ruled I Should Die...)
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To: nickcarraway

Not just ordained priests, but bishops!


31 posted on 10/06/2005 12:31:04 PM PDT by Pyro7480 (Blessed Pius IX, pray for us!)
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To: netmilsmom

I agree with you. We are military, and our last army Chaplain was Polish (born & raised) what a very devout man he is. We are back in the states now, and dealing with liberal theology, again.


32 posted on 10/06/2005 12:32:25 PM PDT by SAMS (Nobody loves a soldier until the enemy is at the gate; Army Wife & Marine Mom)
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To: Pyro7480

Eactly, so it's a little different how they recieved Holy Communion.


33 posted on 10/06/2005 12:38:53 PM PDT by nickcarraway (I'm Only Alive, Because a Judge Hasn't Ruled I Should Die...)
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To: diamond6
Christ at the Last Supper, handed them the Eucharist, he didn't place tiny pieces on the tongue.

The apostles were priests, not laity.

34 posted on 10/06/2005 12:42:53 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: Pyro7480

According to this report, Cardinal Mahony DENIED communicants the right to receive on the tongue, at a gay and lesbian pow-wow he presided over in Long Beach, Calif. back in 1997.


Excerpt:
At the Long Beach Mass, leavened bread was used instead of hosts, with Cardinal Mahony denying one young woman communion on the tongue. "No, this isn't done here," he told her.
http://www.losangelesmission.com/ed/articles/2003/1103iw.htm


35 posted on 10/06/2005 12:43:42 PM PDT by Deo volente
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To: Pyro7480

What have I been telling you guys lately! One trusts the Vatican will listen to these voices from the East.


36 posted on 10/06/2005 1:00:10 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: SAMS

>> We are back in the states now, and dealing with liberal theology, again.<<

I'll pray for you, my FRiend!


37 posted on 10/06/2005 1:08:52 PM PDT by netmilsmom (God blessed me with a wonderful husband.)
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To: netmilsmom
And half of the American Bishops fainted dead on the floor when he said it!

You've got that right. And the other half of them were holding hands during the Our Father...

a_r

38 posted on 10/06/2005 1:51:27 PM PDT by arkady_renko
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To: nickcarraway; All

You all make a very good point.


39 posted on 10/06/2005 2:31:53 PM PDT by diamond6 (Everyone who is for abortion has already been born. Ronald Reagan)
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To: arkady_renko

>>You've got that right. And the other half of them were holding hands during the Our Father...<<

LOLOLOLOL!!!!!


40 posted on 10/06/2005 3:22:35 PM PDT by netmilsmom (God blessed me with a wonderful husband.)
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