[pro610]

***"You ignore the vehicle that Christianity traveled on right up to Luther is irrelevant,but,not for that vehicle there would be no Christianity at all today,for it would have long disappeared from the world,and Luther and the rest of the world would have nothing to rebel "from""***

Bingo!

Do you mind if I borrow that quote?

[magisterium]

Sure. Go for it. What you have here, though, is slightly different from what I wrote in post 108.