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To: wideawake

We differ on the re-sacraficial vs remembrance and focus on the sacrifice Christ did for all aspect of the Lords Supper, but not on confession...

I can speak for WELS, LCMS and ELCA in the respect that personal confession is perfectly acceptable...for other, what you would call Reformed, churches I can not speak for...confession of sin is done at every service held in WELS for sure and I'm speculating LCMS and possibly ELCA (they are going down an aweful path)...based on the fact that many on here have stated their parishes have confession only for an hour before mass...

Question: Does the RCC allow for confession to God and absolution from God or does it always have to go thru the priest? I don't know and am curious...thanks...

Another question I don't know the answer for...I have been told you need to list out your sins...what about the sins you have done but don't realize or remember, is there a general confession that you do too then?


In Christ...


137 posted on 10/07/2005 8:21:07 PM PDT by phatus maximus (John 6:29...Learn it, love it, live it...)
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To: phatus maximus
Does the RCC allow for confession to God and absolution from God or does it always have to go thru the priest? I don't know and am curious...thanks...

Catholic doctrine is that Christ alone grants absolution and that He does so using his Church as His instrument.

If the resources of the Church aren't at one's disposal, then I'm sure He acts directly (I think of the analogy of Christ healing the blind in the Scriptures - in Matthew 9:29 He heals the blind men directly, and in John 9:6 he uses mud as an intermediary).

The Church's role prevents certain natural human failings like people excusing themselves from certain sins, losing the virtue of humility, not confronting themselves directly with their faults, etc.

I have been told you need to list out your sins...what about the sins you have done but don't realize or remember

The usual method most Catholics use is to examine their conscience by praying over the Ten Commandments and measuring their behavior against each of them. That serves as an aid to memory when you confess.

When you are absolved, the absolution is total - it applies to all the sins you do not realize or remember because the important thing is that you have come humbly to Christ in admitting your sinful nature. The listing and enumeration of sins is intended for your own edification and to give the confessor insight into the state of your soul and your sincerity in seeking absolution.

Usually, before you are absolved, the confessor asks you to address a short prayer to God telling him that you are sorry for your sins and that you open your heart to Him to so that He can change it. In that prayer, many Catholics include something along the lines of expressing sorrow for sins they can't recall or recognize.

138 posted on 10/10/2005 6:17:03 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander-in-Chief)
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