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To: xzins
To spend that much space defending a heretic is pathetic.

It's like you think you've found something to like about the guy that 1,600 years of scholars have over-looked.

AUGUSTINE AND PELAGIUS

"Humanism, in all its subtle forms, recapitulates the unvarnished Pelagianism against which Augustine struggled. Though Pelagius was condemned as a heretic by Rome, and its modified form, Semi-Pelagianism was likewise condemned by the Council of Orange in 529, the basic assumptions of this view persisted throughout church history to reappear in Medieval Catholicism, Renaissance Humanism, Socinianism, Arminianism, and modern Liberalism. The seminal thought of Pelagius survives today not as a trace or tangential influence but is pervasive in the modern church. Indeed, the modern church is held captive by it..."

I think you underestimate the desire of men to rule themselves. To deny original sin and its profound effects on the human race denies the very words of Scripture and makes into a quaint fable the actions of Adam and Eve, not to mention the predestining will of a sovereign Creator.

Pelagius got a bad rap for a very good reason. And to try to rehabilitate him is disingenuous. But you'll be the darling of the unitarians who idolize him.

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar; and a heretic is just a heretic.

23 posted on 09/30/2005 10:24:20 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

I read a statement from Augustine the other day to the effect that Mary was the Spouse of God.

What do you make of that?


26 posted on 09/30/2005 10:33:09 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; Gamecock; xzins
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar; and a heretic is just a heretic.

and a one note wonder is a one note wonder.....

for the sake of everyone here - would anyone care to identify the pelagian churches of today instead of buggy whipping some old dead guy

48 posted on 10/03/2005 4:10:38 AM PDT by Revelation 911
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