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To: jo kus
"What does a Protestant base his faith on? His own interpretation of the Scriptures. Whether he is an AOG or a Baptist, you are relying on yourself to figure out what God wants ans what He said, rather then listening to what HE said."

I am a bit confused by your statement above.
As I understand it, scriptures are archaic written verses that some men claim to have received directly from God, or are interpretations of what God has said to men, or are supposedly direct quotes from Jesus Christ.

Who is the "HE" that "people" are supposed to listen too?
The one true God that has no problem communicating to those individuals who seek him?
Or the rabbi,priest or pastor who claims to have special privileged council with God and/or God's will?

I often wonder how much actual faith in God exists in any organized religion.
Oh well, I will meet you all on judgement day, and get the final answer.Until then,IMHO, I think it pretty logical to consider that God would not approve of the incessant doctrinal carping over petty minutiae.
337 posted on 09/29/2005 7:26:07 PM PDT by sarasmom (What is the legal daily bag limit for RINOs in the USA?)
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To: sarasmom; jo kus
As I understand it, scriptures are archaic written verses that some men claim to have received directly from God, or are interpretations of what God has said to men, or are supposedly direct quotes from Jesus Christ.

Of the approximately 300 Old Testament quotes in the New Testament, approximately 2/3 of them came from the Septuagint (the Greek translation of the Old Testament) which included the deuterocanonical books that the Protestants later removed. This is additional evidence that Jesus and the apostles viewed the deuterocanonical books as part of canon of the Old Testament. Some examples:

Matt. 3:3; Mark 1:3; John 1:23 / Isaiah 40:3 - make "His paths straight." Hebrew - make "level in the desert a highway."

Mark 7:6-8 – Jesus quotes Isaiah 29:13 from the Septuagint – “This people honors me with their lips, but their heart is far from me; in vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrines the precepts of men.”

Rom. 9:27 / Isaiah 10:22 - only a remnant of them "will be saved." Hebrew - only a remnant of them "will return."

1 Cor. 1:19 / Isaiah 29:14 - "I will destroy" the wisdom of the wise. Hebrew - wisdom of their wise men "shall perish."

God spoke to us through His chosen people. He promised them a Messiah. He came and spoke to us again. Rejoice in His message of Salvation!

341 posted on 09/29/2005 8:15:21 PM PDT by NYer
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To: sarasmom
Who is the "HE" that "people" are supposed to listen too? The one true God that has no problem communicating to those individuals who seek him?

Or the rabbi,priest or pastor who claims to have special privileged council with God and/or God's will?

The "he" are qualified "apostles" sent by the Church, not self-proclaimed men who thought that they could interpret the Scriptures AGAINST how Christendom interpreted them for 1500 years. WHY should someone believe that Luther is right, and 1500 years of Christendom are wrong? And for that matter, how can Pastor X KNOW his interpretation is right vs. Pastor Y across the street at a different denomination? God gave the Church the power to teach and preach to the world. He didn't promise to come individually to preach to each person. He left that to His Church.

I often wonder how much actual faith in God exists in any organized religion.

Read the lives of the saints...That is the faith that "organized religion" brings out. Don't judge a religion by those who are merely nominal practicioners. As to doctrinal "carping", consider reading the Gospels. Jesus, out of love, often times argued over doctrine with the Pharisees, trying to bring the truth to them. "The truth will set you free". And most people on this forum believe they have the truth.

Regards

354 posted on 09/30/2005 5:45:38 AM PDT by jo kus
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