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First Temple-era seal discovered [Jerusalem]
Jerusalem Post ^ | 9/27/5 | ETGAR LEFKOVITS

Posted on 09/27/2005 3:55:29 PM PDT by SmithL

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So, there were Jews in Jerusalem BEFORE 1967?
1 posted on 09/27/2005 3:55:30 PM PDT by SmithL
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Yeah, it's a good thing Arafat died before this became known or they would really holler. Oh, yeah. And i bet the Palestinians will be more careful of their trash in the future.ha!


2 posted on 09/27/2005 3:59:02 PM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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The seal was found amidst thousands of tons of rubble discarded by Wakf officials at city garbage dumps six years ago, following the Islamic Trust's unilateral construction of an mosque at an underground compound of the Temple Mount known as the Solomon's Stables.


3 posted on 09/27/2005 3:59:52 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: SmithL

Hebrew language, Jews, temple in Jerusalem 2600+ years ago..... and the Islamo-fascists are more determined than ever to commit historical and cultural genocide.


4 posted on 09/27/2005 4:00:18 PM PDT by Enchante (Would you trust YOUR life to Mayor Nagin or Governor Blankhead?)
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To: SmithL

Oh wow! I would love to be over there sifting thru the rubble.


5 posted on 09/27/2005 4:07:32 PM PDT by Ditter
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Says "a large segment of a marble pillar's shaft," was found.

How do you think the original demolition crews did not find this? They had to intentionally ignore what they were digging through.

We all know they had to be interested in sifting through material as they dug it out, after all, they were digging on the Temple Mount. They had to have made a decision that the demolition was going to take place no matter what was found.


6 posted on 09/27/2005 4:10:31 PM PDT by InterestedQuestioner ("Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved.")
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Wait a little... "The 2,600 year old artifact..." is "the first of its kind from the time of King David"? Wouldn't it have to be about 3000 yrs old for that?


7 posted on 09/27/2005 4:12:34 PM PDT by GSlob
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First Temple-era seal discovered

Shalom.....

ooopss nevermind, wrong seal...

8 posted on 09/27/2005 6:40:47 PM PDT by Dick Vomer (liberals suck......... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.)
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To: GSlob
Wouldn't it have to be about 3000 yrs old for that?

No doubt he means King David's Temple. Poor editing probably. But in these times, who knows what mainstream archaeologists believe about Biblical timelines?

9 posted on 09/27/2005 7:17:14 PM PDT by hlmencken3 ("...politics is a religion substitute for liberals and they can't stand the competition")
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"No doubt he means King David's Temple. Poor editing probably."
But isn't the first temple associated with Solomon, and not with David? I'd say it must be VERY POOR editing.
10 posted on 09/27/2005 8:18:53 PM PDT by GSlob
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Good point, although strictly speaking David designated and acquired the site, accumulated material and made plans for the Temple, which Solomon later carried out.

Makes me wonder even more about the 'expert' here...


11 posted on 09/27/2005 8:28:28 PM PDT by hlmencken3 ("...politics is a religion substitute for liberals and they can't stand the competition")
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To: SJackson

ping for ME interest


13 posted on 09/27/2005 8:31:54 PM PDT by hlmencken3 ("...politics is a religion substitute for liberals and they can't stand the competition")
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; ...
If you'd like to be on this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.

..........................................

14 posted on 09/27/2005 8:52:35 PM PDT by SJackson (we are forced to live in a democracy... the process is frustratingly slow, HRH Gov Blagojevich)
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To: SmithL

Hmmm...

Quite a coincidence that this turns up about the same time as

http://paleojudaica.blogspot.com/2005_08_01_paleojudaica_archive.html#112288585502341362

MORE ON THE CITY OF DAVID EXCAVATION in the New York Times:

Digging Deep for Proof of an Ancient Jewish Capital

By STEVEN ERLANGER
Published: August 5, 2005

JERUSALEM, Aug. 4 - An Israeli archaeologist says she has uncovered in East Jerusalem what may be the fabled palace of the biblical King David...

...Ms. Mazar believes she has found a riposte: a large public building, with at least some pottery of the time, and a bulla, or governmental seal, of an official - Jehucal (or Jucal), son of Shelemiah, son of Shevi - who is mentioned at least twice in the Book of Jeremiah.

Three questions. First, is the name on the bulla Jehucal (according to Maariv) or Yehudi (according to the New York Sun)? I assume it's the former, but given the Sun report it would have been helpful to have clarification. Second, where does the name "Shevi" come from? The book of Jeremiah doesn't give Jehucal's grandfather's name and according to the Maariv article the grandfather's name on the bulla was "Nubi." Is Shevi a correction of the earlier report? (Just how well-preserved is this bulla?) Third, what is a late-seventh-century bulla doing in a tenth-century building? Was the bulla excavated in the building or was it just found in its vicinity? What is the stratigraphy of the building? Was it still in use in the seventh century?

The building can be reasonably dated by the pottery found above and below it. Ms. Mazar found on the bedrock a large floor of crushed limestone, indicating a large public space. The floor and fill above it contain pottery from Iron Age I of the 12th to 11th centuries B.C., just before David conquered Jerusalem.

Above that, Ms. Mazar found the foundations for this monumental building, with large boulders for walls that are about 2 yards thick and extend at least 30 yards. In one corner was pottery of Iron Age II, the 10th to 9th centuries, roughly the time of the united kingdom.

Unfortunately, Mr. Mazar said, she found no floor. It is clear the building was constructed after the pottery underneath it, but less clear exactly how much later...


15 posted on 09/27/2005 8:59:38 PM PDT by hlmencken3 ("...politics is a religion substitute for liberals and they can't stand the competition")
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Thanks for the ping, very interesting.
"After the Antiquities Authority voiced disinterest in thoroughly sifting through the rubble discarded by the Wakf, Barkay applied -- and eventually received –a license from the Antiquities Authority to sort through the piles of earth thrown into the garbage dump in search of antiquities"
It's too bad that they were not interested in their history.
16 posted on 09/27/2005 9:00:57 PM PDT by bubbleb
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While inexact, the ongoing sifting project, which is now being sponsored by Elad, has being called virtually unprecedented since archaeological excavation has never been permitted on the Temple Mount itself.

Muslims, in their never-ending denials of Jewish presence on the Temple Mount, hauled off truckload after truckload of archaeological treasures. Thanks to their stupidity, what used to be inaccessible evidence, is now a digger's delight.

The contempt they have shown for Jewish artifacts is appalling, and who knows what has been lost and destroyed in the process. The "blame" for any discovery, however, falls squarely on the idiots who couldn't wait to dispose of the evidence.

What Waqf or Pali official (Arafat?) didn't think this one through? As Bugs would say, "What a maroon!"

17 posted on 09/27/2005 9:03:58 PM PDT by Thinkin' Gal (As it was in the days of NO...)
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A First-Temple period seal has been discovered amidst piles of rubble from Jerusalem's Temple Mount

Doesn't matter.

Mohammed was taken on a horse...no....half man...no half goat....to uhh...Mecca...err...Las Vegas..or...JERUSALEM!...yeah, that's the ticket.


18 posted on 09/27/2005 9:17:09 PM PDT by Lijahsbubbe (To the world you may be one person, but to one person you may be the world)
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To: Yehuda

Erlanger and other NYT slime are tracked at

http://www.timeswatch.org/

Come to think of it, I wish FR would ban all posting from the NYT except from sources like timeswatch.org or other NYT-refuters.


20 posted on 09/27/2005 10:04:36 PM PDT by hlmencken3 ("...politics is a religion substitute for liberals and they can't stand the competition")
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