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To: BlackElk; Salvation; NYer; siunevada
I really liked Kung's "Does God Exist?" Thought it a very worthy book, but that was pre-stripping.

I'm still betting that the two are old pals.

After all, Kung's only crime was in disputing papal infallibility. See below....Link to Quote

Ratzinger goes on to support Kung's position versus the Theology of Rome, of which today he is the top representative... He stresses:

"I want to emphasize again that I decidedly agree with Kung when he makes a clear distinction between Roman theology (taught in the schools of Rome) and the Catholic Faith. To free itself from the constraining fetters of Roman Scholastic Theology represents a duty upon which, in my humble opinion, the possibility of the survival of Catholicism seems to depend" (Ibid., p. 101, last text highlighted at right).


11 posted on 09/26/2005 9:09:15 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: xzins; BlackElk; Salvation; NYer
Kung's only crime was in disputing papal infallibility.

A quick scan of Google brought this up from 1998.

Hans Kung: Vatican Rehab or Challenge to Change?
Some speculate whether Swiss theologian will be next "prodigal son"

On January 30, in another in a long series of sharp attacks on the Holy See, dissident theologian, Father Hans Kung also denounced the bishops of Germany for accepting the decision of Pope John Paul II that Catholic counselors should not provide the certificates of counseling required of women seeking abortions.

Kung accused the German bishops of "servile obedience" to the "Roman Kremlin", and said that by accepting the pope's decision, they had lost their "credibility" and their "apostolic franchise." He called for "tenacious resistance" against the authority of Rome, which he said was based on "half-truths" and "camouflage", and hinted that the German bishops were motivated by their desire to become cardinals.

Kung has accused the pope of imposing a "rigid, stagnating and despotic rule in the spirit of the Inquisition". Two years ago he called for a new pope who would "save the barque of Saint Peter from sinking" by changing the teaching on women priests, married male priests, divorce and birth control.

http://www.adoremus.org/Kung-598.html

Gott in Himmel!

12 posted on 09/26/2005 9:34:56 AM PDT by siunevada
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To: xzins; BlackElk; Salvation; NYer
I'm still betting that the two are old pals.

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.(Discussion)
Has Kung spoke out yet about his former colleage Pope Benedict XVI (Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger)?

Yes, he has. He said in a German TV interview. He called the appointment of Ratzinger a "great disappointment". He goes on to say that "many others would have been better choices". Here he cited Martini and Lehman. But Küng also expressed some hope Ratzinger could return to his more conciliatory roots: "The (papal) office changes everyone". On a personal level Küng described Ratzinger as "distanced, cool and, if necessary, Machiavellian". (entire interview: rtsp://video.daserste.azzoo.net/realcontent/moma/050420_3_28.rm)

Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Hans_K%C3%BCng"

What a pal. I feel the love!

13 posted on 09/26/2005 9:49:43 AM PDT by siunevada
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To: xzins
After all, Kung's only crime was in disputing papal infallibility.

Your overly simplistic dismissal of Kung's actions requires a more detailed explanation.

THE HISTORICAL CREDIBILITY OF HANS KUNG

14 posted on 09/26/2005 9:50:21 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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