"*IMO, Allen is right. There is a tendency, among the self-described trads, to think there will be a return to the Old Liturgy as normative. That clearly isn't going to happen, Nor, sadly, will those favoring that outcome likely stop viewing as heretical or suspect or sacriligeous those favoring Christian Worship in a Charismatic or speaking-in-tongues fashion."
I tend to agree with you, but would expand upon it a bit. I think our ultra-traditional Roman Catholics in the U.S. are going to have a few disappointing decades. The reality, which Mr. Allen stated quite clearly, was that American Catholics make up about 6% of the world total. What he didn't say was that this share is probably going to continue to shrink.
Although many American Catholics look at the current growth in the numbers of Catholics in the U.S as being a reason for great optimisim, I would hasten to point out that most of that growth is due to immigration not evangelization. And thus this growth will probably slow as a political consensus emerges in the U.S. that immigration (legal and otherwise) needs to be better controlled.
That's a long way of saying that as we become less and less of the world population of Catholics, we'll become less and less relevant in global catholic affairs. What is uniquely important to Catholics in the U.S. will become less important to the overall agenda of the church. The U.S. episcopate will be deciding the priorities and making the decisions for the church. What you see is what you're going to get in that regard.
My Parish is teeming with converts - protestants, at least 10 Jews and one Muslim famly of 9 - and I don't thnk that would have happened back in the day when Mass was what is now longed-for my some self-described traditinalists and we were Church contra mundum.
Vatican Two reoriented (pun intended) us to our true Mission - the Church as Missionary intending to bring the Good News/Salvation/Sacraments to all manner of men speaking all manner of tongues
I suggest you relate in tems of valid versus invalid -authentic versus inauthentic ALSO document your opinion if you consider your posting on liturgy to be instructional -save your meaningless BS for home use amongst friends that may be impressed... What you do for the body of Christ with this trad non trad BS is something you should consider as detrimental to the common good...
I don't believe Tradition is an American thing. Most of the world was evangelized and converted by the Traditional Latin Mass and those who said it. It's hardly a property of America.