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To: Convert from ECUSA

I do think that there might be too much of a focus on homosexuality, not that it is insignificant. I am in a seminary, and we seminarians are going to take the opportunity to discuss intellectual and moral formation with the Apostolic Visitors. We feel short-changed that our formal formation is impoverished and often contradicts the holy Catholic faith. We are very much more traditional than our faculty. The problem is not with the seminarians. It is with what our formators are trying to pass off as authentic catholic teaching.


22 posted on 09/21/2005 9:15:56 AM PDT by SaintThomasMorePrayForUs
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To: SaintThomasMorePrayForUs
"Why stop at seminaries? Why not deacons, priests, bishops, archbishops and cardinals? Are they going to be asked if they are homosexuals and if they are, be forced to resign their positions?" he said. "If that happens, there will be many empty offices, many empty parishes and many empty sees." Yes. Yes. Yes. Clean them out. Let them be replaced by FSSP, Institute of Christ the King and SSPX priests just out of the seminary....28 years old 1 years experience, solid theology ...no problem be a Bishop!

The Novus Ordo will fall like the Soviet Union if they go after the poofters.

23 posted on 09/21/2005 10:01:02 AM PDT by Pio (Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Solis)
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To: SaintThomasMorePrayForUs
I wish you every success with the Apostolic Visitors and I agree with your overall thesis that seminaries are in need of a general tune up, not just their admissions policies.

As far as the focus on homosexuality goes, I think it's probably a case of the squeaky wheel getting the grease. Abuse settlements have cost the Church millions and that cannot continue. It would be nice to think that the visitation has been inspired by purely spiritual principles but a multi-million dollar hemorrhage will get the attention of any business owner- even a spiritual business owner like the Church.

I'm inclined to believe, however, that the homosexual question is intimately tied up with the larger question of heterodoxy and watered-down Catholicism. You may find that if the lavender mafia is flushed from the seminaries, the formation issues which you raise may also significantly diminish. I've always had a hunch, based on no particular scientific data, that there is a tie-up between sexual and theological deviancy.

26 posted on 09/21/2005 11:08:58 AM PDT by marshmallow
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To: SaintThomasMorePrayForUs
"We feel short-changed that our formal formation is impoverished and often contradicts the holy Catholic faith. We are very much more traditional than our faculty. The problem is not with the seminarians. It is with what our formators are trying to pass off as authentic catholic teaching."

God bless you! May Our Lord and Our Lady help you stand firm for the real Faith and real Truth and preserve and protect you and your fellow godly seminarians from those wolves (formators)!
27 posted on 09/21/2005 11:30:16 AM PDT by Convert from ECUSA (tired of all the shucking and jiving)
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