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To: Aquinasfan

Problematic interpretation.

Catholic teaching is that Mary had no pain in childbirth (Rev 12:2)
"Then being with child, she cried out in labor and in pain to give birth."

and that she only had one child (Rev 12:17)
"And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and he went to make war with the rest of her offspring, who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ."

More than likely, the woman symbolizes the messianic community - the OT "church" if you will.


20 posted on 09/19/2005 10:32:50 AM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: PetroniusMaximus
Problematic interpretation.

Catholic teaching is that Mary had no pain in childbirth (Rev 12:2) "Then being with child, she cried out in labor and in pain to give birth."

That's Catholic tradition, and it's a good point. I found this explanation:

At the primary level of symbolism, we can see this woman as representative of our Blessed Mother, who gave birth to our Lord. But in making this association, we do not apply every aspect or detail to her directly without qualification. For the suffering need not be a matter of physically giving birth, but of the sufferings the Mother of our Lord endured which reach a height as she stood beneath the cross upon which her Son died. Remember, the prophet Simeon had foretold that a sword of sorrow would pierce her heart. This allusion was not a matter of a physical sword but of spiritual and emotional suffering of a Mother, which is also physical.

Catholic tradition generally accepts both interpretations, "the woman" as representing both Mary and the Church, with the interpretation of "the woman" as Mary being preeminent.

This interpretation is preeminent because it would be inconsistent to interpret the child and dragon literally (as Jesus and the devil) and to interpret "the woman" metaphorically (as "the Church," rather than Mary).

Additionally, the Church recognizes the miraculous nature of Juan Diego's tilma. His tilma bears the image of Mary as the woman described in Revelation, "a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon was under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars."

and that she only had one child (Rev 12:17) "And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and he went to make war with the rest of her offspring, who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ."

That's not a problem because Catholics consider Mary to be the "New Eve." The baptized would be considered her "offspring."

More than likely, the woman symbolizes the messianic community - the OT "church" if you will.

See above. Also, How is it that the woman clothed with the sun mentioned in Revelations 12:1 is claimed to be the Virgin Mary by us Catholics?

21 posted on 09/19/2005 10:56:49 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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