Catholic Caucus: Mary, The Power of Her Name [The Most Holy Name of the Blessed Virgin Mary]

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[Conservative til I die]

So you can teach whatever you want as long as it has a stamp on it from Rome?

Never met a Catholic here who's said anything remotely like this. Oh, you're just making outlandish rhetorical points. Is this how you expect to win souls to Christ, spouting this sort of inane rubbish?

[Conservative til I die]

I have seen some very nice gift wrapping. Some with Gold foil even. As far as I am concerned everybody in this thread is gift wrapping, so there.

So God's creations are simply foil paper to be balled up and thrown into the trash with the used cat litter and snot covered Kleenex?

Scratch a Protestant and uncover an anti-Christian.

[Conservative til I die]

My relationship with my mother is ethically different from my relationship with Mary. I owe my mother honor, support, care, respect. In comparison, I owe that other mother zip. Zero. Nothing.

Wow, that's a generally lowlife thing to say. Tell me, do you hate all mothers that aren't your own? Or just Mary? Because you just said you owe Mary no respect, honor, support or care. Let's hope you treat other "run of the mill" woman with a little more respect.

I've always found it funny that the more you push a Proddie, the less neutral and the more outright disrespectful, and sometimes venomous and hateful they became of people respected by Catholics. Apparently only because they are respected by Catholics. What a Christian way to live.

Just pathetic and shameful.

[Diego1618]

Do you have a problem with someone praying the Lord's Prayer multiple times?

Yes I do! Its called babbling. In Matthew 6:9 Jesus does not say, "Pray this prayer". He says "This is how you should pray."

[Diego1618]

Man, scratch a Protestant and uncover an anti-Christian.

I am not a Protestant....never been one!

[Diego1618]

The Church of God is the Catholic Church.

Then why don't you call yourselves that?....all of the Apostles did!

[Diego1618]

God was never called "Triune" in Scripture either.

You're right...he wasn't....and is not!

[Pyro7480]

Was Our Lord "babbling?"

And going a little further, he fell upon his face, praying, and saying: My Father, if it be possible, let this chalice pass from me. Nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt.... Again the second time, he went and prayed, saying: My Father, if this chalice may not pass away, but I must drink it, thy will be done.... And leaving them, he went again: and he prayed the third time, saying the selfsame word. (Matthew 26: 39, 42, 44)

[Pyro7480]

Ah, you have revealed yourself to be a Unitarian or a Jehovah's Witness.

[AnAmericanMother]

Unfortunately for your "sola scriptura" approach, it is "tradition" that determined what constitutes the Holy Scriptures. And nowhere in the Bible does "sola scriptura" appear . . . in fact, St. Paul makes plain (well before the Bible was actually compiled) that the faithful should rely on what the apostles have SPOKEN as well as what is written.

Do you subscribe to the Nicene Creed? The Apostles' Creed? The Athanasian Creed?

[AnAmericanMother]

MY favorite is St. Paul's admonition to Timothy to "Drink no longer water, but use a little wine for thy stomach's sake and thine often infirmities."

[Pyro7480]

Do you subscribe to the Nicene Creed? The Apostles' Creed? The Athanasian Creed?

Apparently not.

Conservative til I die:God was never called "Triune" in Scripture either.
Diego1618 You're right...he wasn't....and is not!

[Diego1618]

Was Our Lord "babbling?"

No... he was seeking an answer knowing that his time was short. If you notice, he did not say the same thing the second time. He said something similar. In verse 44 you will see that scripture says that he did say the same thing. Twice does not constitute babbling or "vain repetitions". Saying the rosary 6 times daily and repeating the Lord's Prayer 6 times each rosary does constitute babbling.

[cyborg]

Our Lady of Lourdes prayer petition answered bump!

[AnAmericanMother]

If you said the Rosary six times a day, you wouldn't have time to do anything else! Figure about 20 minutes for 5 decades - an entire Rosary with all four sets of Mysteries therefore takes 90 minutes to recite, longer if you add all the additional prayers. So if you pray it six times a day, that's nine hours' worth, assuming no meal, water or potty breaks.

Time to head for the convent!

(BTW, if you pray it in the Bavarian manner that I learned when I lived in Germany, the Rosary is not subject to the (wholly invalid) criticism of "vain repetition" because each prayer changes slightly as you progress. But that makes the Rosary take STILL longer to complete . . . )

. . . I dare ya to go to a Two Hearts Vigil . . . < g >

[Pyro7480]

The Athanasian Creed

Whoever wishes to be saved must, above all, keep the Catholic faith. For unless a person keeps this faith whole and entire, he will undoubtedly be lost forever. This is what the catholic faith teaches: we worship one God in the Trinity and the Trinity in unity. Neither confounding the Persons, nor dividing the substance. For there is one Person of the Father, another of the Son, another of the Holy Spirit.

But the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit have one divinity, equal glory, and coeternal majesty. What the Father is, the Son is, and the Holy Spirit is.

The Father is uncreated, the Son is uncreated, and the Holy Spirit is uncreated. The Father is boundless, the Son is boundless, and the Holy Spirit is boundless. The Father is eternal, the Son is eternal, and the Holy Spirit is eternal.

Nevertheless, there are not three eternal beings, but one eternal being. So there are not three uncreated beings, nor three boundless beings, but one uncreated being and one boundless being. Likewise, the Father is omnipotent, the Son is omnipotent, the Holy Spirit is omnipotent.

Yet there are not three omnipotent beings, but one omnipotent being. Thus the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God.

However, there are not three gods, but one God. The Father is Lord, the Son is Lord, and the Holy Spirit is Lord. However, there are not three lords, but one Lord. For as we are obliged by Christian truth to acknowledge every Person singly to be God and Lord, so too are we forbidden by the Catholic religion to say that there are three Gods or Lords.

The Father was not made, nor created, nor generated by anyone. The Son is not made, nor created, but begotten by the Father alone. The Holy Spirit is not made, nor created, nor generated, but proceeds from the Father and the Son. There is, then, one Father, not three Fathers; one Son, not three sons; one Holy Spirit, not three holy spirits. In this Trinity, there is nothing before or after, nothing greater or less. The entire three Persons are coeternal and coequal with one another. So that in all things, as is has been said above, the Unity is to be worshiped in Trinity and the Trinity in Unity.

He, therefore, who wishes to be saved, must believe thus about the Trinity. It is also necessary for eternal salvation that he believes steadfastly in the incarnation of our Lord Jesus Christ. Thus the right faith is that we believe and confess that our Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, is both God and man. As God, He was begotten of the substance of the Father before time; as man, He was born in time of the substance of His Mother. He is perfect God; and He is perfect man, with a rational soul and human flesh. He is equal to the Father in His divinity, but inferior to the Father in His humanity. Although He is God and man, He is not two, but one Christ. And He is one, not because His divinity was changed into flesh, but because His humanity was assumed unto God. He is one, not by a mingling of substances, but by unity of person. As a rational soul and flesh are one man: so God and man are one Christ. He died for our salvation, descended into Hell, and rose from the dead on the third day. He ascended into Heaven, sits at the right hand of God the Father almighty. From there He shall come to judge the living and the dead. At His coming, all men are to arise with their own bodies; and they are to give an account of their own deeds. Those who have done good deeds will go into eternal life; those who have done evil will go into the everlasting fire.

This is the Catholic faith. Everyone must believe it, firmly and steadfastly; otherwise He cannot be saved. Amen.

[AnAmericanMother]

Rats! You gave it away! < g >

[Salvation]

It's a contemplative prayer. Get over it.

[Salvation]

**in fact, St. Paul makes plain (well before the Bible was actually compiled) that the faithful should rely on what the apostles have SPOKEN as well as what is written.**

Now your letting them know that St. Paul is on our side. (laughing)