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To: sitetest

The exception to the law (no non-Catholic service in Catholic houses of worship) was made in favor of other Christians who did not have access to facilities large enough for their services.

"Catholic churches are consecrated or blessed buildings which have an important theological and liturgical significance for the Catholic community. They are therefore generally reserved for Catholic worship. However, if priests, ministers or communities not in full communion with the Catholic Church do not have a place or the liturgical objects necessary for celebrating worthily their religious ceremonies, the diocesan Bishop may allow them the use of a church or a Catholic building and also lend them what may be necessary for their services. Under similar circumstances permission may be given to them for interment or for the celebration of services at Catholic cemeteries." (Directory for the Application of Principles and Norms on Ecumenism, 137, 25 March 1993)

There is a facility available for this funeral that is much larger than the Washignton Cathedral. The only reason our Church is being loaned out to heretics is because the dates weren't convenient for the family to use a Protestant building. This sort of circumstance is certainly not what was envisioned in making this exception, since the exception made to the law is in favor of the ministers and community of the sects, not the faithful of the sects for private acts (a funeral), and is an exception revolving around a lack of place, not an inopportunity of time.

However, on a bigger question, I find the application of this exception is frequently at least gravely scandalous - i.e. lending our Cathedrals to Protestants to "ordain" Clericettes. The whole procedure is anti-traditional and would be better in my view if it was stopped.

Making an exception for Rhenquist here is simply opening up the exception to the law a little further in the continual effort of AmChurch to open wide the doors to heresy.


7 posted on 09/07/2005 12:31:41 PM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: Hermann the Cherusker

Dear Hermann the Cherusker,

Thanks for the explanation.

I wonder, though, whether it wasn't quite just a matter of inconveniencing the Rehnquist family.

Justice Rehnquist was one of the more important persons in the United States at the time of his death, and I suppose that there are a lot of folks who want to be at the funeral, including, I'm told, President Bush.

It may be that the later date created more than an ordinary inconvenience, and in a sense became closer to a lack of appropriate facility. I'm not sure that Cardinal McCarrick's actions are too far off from what is intended by the law.

As to your wider point, I find myself unqualified to offer an opinion, so, I won't.

Anyway, thanks again for the explanation.


sitetest


8 posted on 09/07/2005 1:19:58 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Hermann the Cherusker
Under your own Church's position, Lutherans are in "impaired communion" with the Roman Church. Does that make us heretics? If so, I'm sorry, but "here we stand; God help us, we can do no other!"

Redeemer Lutheran is not only in my Synod, but in my District... I wonder if my old pastor, Jon Diethenthaler, who is the District President (= bishop) will lead the service? And why not hold it at St. Andrew's in Silver Spring or Our Savior in Laurel if room is the issue?
11 posted on 09/07/2005 2:04:30 PM PDT by GAB-1955 (Proudly confusing editors and readers since 1981!)
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To: Hermann the Cherusker
However, on a bigger question, I find the application of this exception is frequently at least gravely scandalous - i.e. lending our Cathedrals to Protestants to "ordain" Clericettes. The whole procedure is anti-traditional and would be better in my view if it was stopped.

Can you cite an incident where a priestess had attempted ordination in a Catholic facility?

Use of buildings for other Christan faiths has gone on for a long time, before the 1993 document.

The 1983 CCL 1183: 3 Provided their own minister is not available, baptized persons belonging to a non-Catholic Church or ecclesial community may, in accordance with the prudent judgment of the local Ordinary, be allowed Church funeral rites, unless it is established that they did not wish this.

Can. 1211 Sacred places are desecrated by acts done in them which are gravely injurious and give scandal to the faithful when, in the judgement of the local Ordinary, these acts are so serious and so contrary to the sacred character of the place that worship may not be held there until the harm is repaired by means of the penitential rite which is prescribed in the liturgical books.

Making an exception for Rhenquist here is simply opening up the exception to the law a little further in the continual effort of AmChurch to open wide the doors to heresy.

Can. 1369 A person is to be punished with a just penalty, who, at a public event or assembly, or in a published writing, or by otherwise using the means of social communication, utters blasphemy, or gravely harms public morals, or rails at or excites hatred of or contempt for religion or the Church.
16 posted on 09/08/2005 6:54:15 AM PDT by Dominick ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." - JP II)
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