[RnMomof7]

God, Himself, has done all of this for the believer.

Careful you are sounding like a Calvinist and of course you are right.

'He is the author and finisher of our faith"

"Salvation is of our God"

Psa 18:2 The LORD [is] my rock, and my fortress, and my deliverer; my God, my strength, in whom I will trust; my buckler, and the horn of my salvation, [and] my high tower

Psa 62:7 In God [is] my salvation and my glory: the rock of my strength, [and] my refuge, [is] in God.

[Petrosius]

I fear that we are getting bogged down in the typical back and forth of whether or not the Bible calls for salvation by faith alone. The arguments on both sides have been rehearsed many time. As I stated, I posted the article because within this debate it seemed to me (at least on the part of gscc, Mr. Lucky and myself) that a consensus on this was actually arising.

Again, on this thread I would like to limit the discussion on the definition of "faith." For Catholics it means only intellectual assent. Mr. Lucky and gscc seemed to imply that for Protestants that it also included in some form a commitment to righteousness. Mr. Akin's article also held for this and argued that Catholics and Protestants were saying the same things but using different theological terms (or in the case of the word "faith" the same term with different meanings).

I would like the following questions to be answered:

1) Is there any validity in this position?

2) Is this valid for some Protestants and not others?

3) If so, is there a division in Protestant understanding of "faith" that is specific to particular Protestant denominations or does this division cut across Protestant denominations?

[PetroniusMaximus]

*** Careful you are sounding like a Calvinist and of course you are right.***

Or rather, Calvin was sounding scriptural!

:)