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To: narby

I understand that some room for some eveolutionary belief exists in Catholic Christianity. I dismiss it because I dislike it, and don't see a rigorous proof.

Of course the word "hoax" is rhetorical. The basis for this choice of words is in my belief that at least some of the evolution theory enthusiasts want it to be there before they do the science. Then they do the science to fit the belief. If they did not try to cram this complex, counterintuitive and badly corroborated theory with massive philosophical implications in schools but merely stuck to their labcoats, I would not give them another minute of my time, let alone argue over their superstitions.

"Because that is the only explanation that is reasonable" is not proof. Again, you assume what you want to prove, do some lab work and voila, Proof.


103 posted on 08/31/2005 9:44:38 PM PDT by annalex
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To: annalex
Of course the word "hoax" is rhetorical. The basis for this choice of words is in my belief that at least some of the evolution theory enthusiasts want it to be there before they do the science.

And you want evolution to be false before you do the science. Everyone has their preconceptions, and everyone has a hard time looking past them.

"Because that is the only explanation that is reasonable" is not proof.

I was speaking of the explanation for the existence of viral DNA sequences within human DNA. The shear number of base pairs involved makes the concept that these sequences are anything *other* than an ERV insertion untenable. They can't have been accidental because the odds are too long. And your belief that God put them there for some mystical reason doesn't hold water, unless God put them there via a virus attack several million years ago. And not just one ERV sequence, but a couple thousand of them.

There is a way to decide if God "designed" humans in a special creation. If that was true, then there must be some method to distinguish a designed thing, from an undesigned thing. The scientific method to do this would be to make a prediction of what a designed thing should look like. What remnants of the design could be found. What "signature" to look for.

Unfortunately, even with some very bright people working on that issue with plenty of money to keep them at their work full time, no one has been able to even scratch this knotty problem.

If God existed, and he "created" us and all life, then He did it via evolution. Evolution is actually a very interesting theory, and has been deliberately used in biological engineering, and computer engineering to develop things that could not be "designed" in a straightforward manner by humans. There is simply no question that Evolution theory "works", because we can set up the conditions and allow it to work at will.

Many Christians understand evolution to be Gods greatest creation. Some cannot imagine it's existence.

To me, the reason we cannot distinguish between what is "designed" and "undesigned" in species, is because God created the universe that allows evolution to work, and there is no need for Him to "design" things in a manner analogous to what humans do.

Hands on "designing" is beneath Gods pay grade.

105 posted on 09/01/2005 7:29:22 AM PDT by narby (There are Bloggers, and then there are Freepers.)
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