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To: Hermann the Cherusker; ItsOurTimeNow; Terriergal; Gamecock; xzins; P-Marlowe; Corin Stormhands

"Do the words "looking out", strongly implying that the King was within and Isaac and Rebecca were outside in the open, change your view of this? You think they were having a literal "role in the hay" in the open view of all?"

Of course they were outside, that's what the verse says. What do you think they were playing, hopscotch? Abimelech says "look she's your wife, why did you say she's your sister". Now why would he know she was Isaac's wife if they weren't doing something husbands and wives do?

God created emotions, feelings. He wants us to worship Him with our whole being including our emotions. That is what the poetry and music of the church is for. It involves our emotional response to God, weeping and rejoicing. That does not mean you shut off reason, in fact to understand the emotional response, heightens the experience.


158 posted on 08/23/2005 8:03:14 PM PDT by blue-duncan
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To: blue-duncan
Of course they were outside, that's what the verse says. What do you think they were playing, hopscotch?

Actually, they were playing the ancient forerunner of pin the tail on the antichrist, a game called, pin the tail on the camel.

167 posted on 08/23/2005 9:12:19 PM PDT by Mister_Diddy_Wa_Diddy
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To: blue-duncan; ItsOurTimeNow; Terriergal; Gamecock; xzins; P-Marlowe; Corin Stormhands
Of course they were outside, that's what the verse says. What do you think they were playing, hopscotch? Abimelech says "look she's your wife, why did you say she's your sister". Now why would he know she was Isaac's wife if they weren't doing something husbands and wives do?

Perhaps because the King simply saw them together in public as a husband and wife would appear, and not as a brother and sister. St. Clement of Alexandria writes on the spiritual meaning of this event:

Oh, what wise child's-play. It is laughter
supported by patience, and the king is the
onlooker. Happy is the spirit of those who are
patient children in Christ. That is holy play.

Strong's indicates no connotation of sexuality here.

You may, however, continue to prefer the idea of the Patriarch Isaac having sex in public causing this revelation.

God created emotions, feelings. He wants us to worship Him with our whole being including our emotions. That is what the poetry and music of the church is for. It involves our emotional response to God, weeping and rejoicing. That does not mean you shut off reason, in fact to understand the emotional response, heightens the experience.

The way you talk about this makes it sound like a drug induced sensation. "Feelings" "experience", "emotional response", etc. You should rule your emotions rather than the other way around.

171 posted on 08/23/2005 9:20:15 PM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker (Christ's Apostolic MEGAChurch of the Holy Tares - Fleshly Living for Today)
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To: blue-duncan
He wants us to worship Him with our whole being including our emotions.

No, in spirit and in truth.

174 posted on 08/23/2005 10:23:25 PM PDT by Terriergal (What is the meaning of life?? Man's chief end is to glorify God and to enjoy him for ever.)
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