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To: Prolifeconservative; Tax-chick

I agree with you on the minute difference. The way NFP is often presented is at odds with it's intended use. Classes are given in Pre-Cana and they act like it's just a pill substitute. Unless you are following in taxchick's footsteps, you are committing a grave sin in the Catholic Church.

You cannot use NFP to avoid pregnancy for any reason other than a "grave" one. Illness, financial strain, etc.

Using NFP just because you don't want more that 3 or 4 kids is just as sinful as using a condom.

(And I don't abide by this practice, though I have studied it. I have my hands full with the 3 boys I have. Any more I know I couldn't parent they way I would want. I know that's not a good enough excuse, but I'll have to deal with it in the hereafter.)


146 posted on 08/17/2005 1:18:12 PM PDT by pa mom
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To: pa mom

"And I don't abide by this practice, though I have studied it. I have my hands full with the 3 boys I have..."

Amen! Me too. The boys were a handful!

"You cannot use NFP to avoid pregnancy for any reason other than a "grave" one. Illness, financial strain, etc..."

I think that cuts to the core of conscience. I had multiple miscarriages, bad deliveries, old-style vertical C-sections for all deliveries and weak incisions. By the time my last was conceived, gratefully, I might add later on, but shocking because I was still healing from the last C-section, my doctor was very worried and said, "NO more."

There comes a time when you have to use reason, too. I'll answer in the afterlife I know, but then again, my body has not held up well so I can't imagine how much more depleted I would have been with continuing pregnancies.


180 posted on 08/17/2005 3:35:18 PM PDT by OpusatFR (Try permaculture and get back to the Founders intent. Mr. Jefferson lives!)
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To: pa mom; Prolifeconservative; Tax-chick
The way NFP is often presented is at odds with it's intended use. Classes are given in Pre-Cana and they act like it's just a pill substitute.

There is a simple reason for this. The typical Catholic in pre-Cana is probably already in a premarital sexual relationship involving the pill. The pastors of the Church feel that if we could at least get the faithful to return to the situation of the 1920's through 1960's, where Catholics who wanted to limit their family size used the rhythm method, this would be a great step forward in eradicating sin. This may be a poor prudential judgement on their part, but it is the path they feel they need to follow.

You cannot use NFP to avoid pregnancy for any reason other than a "grave" one. Illness, financial strain, etc. Using NFP just because you don't want more that 3 or 4 kids is just as sinful as using a condom.

This is totally mistaken, but we've discussed this before, and I can't expect you to produce any more proof of this assertion now than you were able to back then, namely none.

208 posted on 08/17/2005 5:25:42 PM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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